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*** RED SIREN UP! BREAKING *** Osama bin Laden involved in a close shave in Pakistan!
Registered ^ | 06-12-02 | Registered

Posted on 06/12/2002 6:29:16 PM PDT by Registered



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: closeone; osama; shave
I think, and this is a guess, that we actually beat Drudge this time!
1 posted on 06/12/2002 6:29:17 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Registered
hahahahaha. great as always.
2 posted on 06/12/2002 6:30:11 PM PDT by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: Registered
You sooooo crazy!
3 posted on 06/12/2002 6:32:06 PM PDT by TexKat
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4 posted on 06/12/2002 6:33:20 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Registered
Mid-evening-chuckle Bump.
5 posted on 06/12/2002 6:34:30 PM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: Registered
Damn! I fell for it. Gotta check those bylines moreclosely. Great pic though.
6 posted on 06/12/2002 6:34:32 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Registered
A little off the sides...a little off the top.
7 posted on 06/12/2002 6:36:06 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: Registered
What happened to Osama bin Laden?

To refresh memories on events in Afghanistan, November 2001, Taliban Timeline:

Nov. 9  Northern Alliance forces, with help of U.S. air support, take cities of Mazar-i-Sharif and Taloqan from the Taliban.

Nov. 11  Three international journalists are killed near Taloqan in a Taliban ambush.

Nov. 12  Northern Alliance forces capture Herat and advance toward Kabul.

Nov. 13  Northern Alliance enters Kabul. The Taliban fall back from Kandahar. There are reports of lawlessness from Mazar-i-Sharif.

Nov. 15  The eight foreign aid workers held since August are freed as the Taliban flees Kandahar.

Nov. 21  Taliban commanders in the city of Kunduz plan to meet with Northern Alliance leaders to negotiate a surrender. The Taliban in Kandahar announce they will continue to fight and claim to still control the provinces of Kandahar, Helmand, Oruzgan, Zabol, and part of Ghazni province. The Taliban deny knowing the location of Osama bin Laden.

Nov. 24  The Taliban surrender Kunduz.

Nov. 25  U.S. special forces and air strikes help subdue a prison revolt in Mazar-i-Sharif. The prison held several hundred Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters, many of them foreign, who had surrendered in Kunduz. The uprising lasts three days. A CIA agent, about 30 Northern Alliance soldiers, and more than 500 Taliban prisoners are killed.

Nov. 25  Hundreds of marines land near Kandahar to combat Taliban and al-Qaeda forces. This is the first major incursion of U.S. ground troops in Afghanistan.

Nov. 27  Afghan leaders meet with UN representatives in Bonn, Germany, to work out guidelines for a post-Taliban government. Afghan leaders represent 4 factions: the Northern Alliance; the "Rome Group," representing former Afghan King Mohammad Zahir Shah; the "Peshawar Group," representing Afghan refugees in Pakistan; and the "Cyprus Group," representing an Iranian-backed group of Afghan exiles.

Nov. 29  U.S. continues airstrikes on Kandahar. Mullah Omar reportedly tells the remaining Taliban forces to "fight to the death." Meanwhile, the Northern Alliance agrees to the presence of international peacekeeping forces.

In The Wall Street Journal / WSJ.com / Opinion Journal, by Tunku Varadarajan, November 28, 2001:

Rescuing the Enemy
Yes, Pakistan evacuated men from Kunduz. Why'd the U.S. let them?

BY TUNKU VARADARAJAN
Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:01 a.m. EST

Last Thursday the Indian press carried reports that two helicopters of the Pakistani air force had landed in the heart of Kunduz--an Afghan town then under siege by the Northern Alliance, but still under Taliban control--and "flew out soon after carrying two chopper loads of personnel." These included two brigadiers of the Pakistani army. Two days later, the Indian press again carried reports, based on information supplied by Indian intelligence, that Pakistan's air force had "flown several missions since Sunday to evacuate top Pakistani military commanders."

When I read these stories, I asked myself: What on earth is going on here?

Of course, it occurred to me that the story could have been a bit of misinformation, perhaps a mischievous "feed" to journalists by Indian intelligence officers keen to stir things up against Pakistan. After all, the allegation was a serious one. Pakistan, a much-vaunted U.S. ally in the war against terrorism, stood accused of rescuing fighters who were on the side of the Taliban and al Qaeda, the very groups against which the U.S. is waging war. And what is more, these fighters were not freelance hotheads from Islamic seminaries in Pakistan--though, goodness knows, there's no shortage of those--but actual members of the Pakistani armed forces. In other words, these were men with ranks and commissions, men in line for Pakistani state pensions, disciplined, professional men who would be unlikely so much as to say "boo" to a goose without orders from above.

If these reports were true, I was entirely justified, was I not, in asking, What on earth is going on here?

On Saturday, the same day as the second Indian report, the New York Times ran a story that caught my eye. "Pakistanis Again Said to Evacuate Allies of Taliban," said the headline over a report filed, from a place called Bangi, near Kunduz, by Dexter Filkins and Carlotta Gall. They told of eyewitness accounts by Northern Alliance soldiers "that Pakistani airplanes had once again flown into the encircled city of Kunduz to evacuate Pakistanis who have been fighting alongside Afghan Taliban forces trapped there." The Times reported that earlier in the week, "alliance officials said they had been told by a Taliban leader in Kunduz that at least three Pakistani Air Force planes had landed in recent days on similar missions."

Yesterday, in a conversation with a highly placed diplomat from the region, I learned enough to be able to assert that all these reports are entirely correct. Pakistani air force helicopters and transport craft did, indeed, ferry out nearly 200 regular men and officers of the Pakistan army--including two brigadiers. A large number of ex-servicemen were also evacuated in this manner. According to the diplomat, "this could not have been done without the specific approval and connivance of the Bush administration." The U.S. controls the skies over Kunduz, and it is unlikely that Pakistani craft would have flown into the zone without attracting U.S. attention.

This affair raises intriguing, and worrying, questions. First: What were these Pakistani soldiers doing in Kunduz? And second, why did the U.S. choose to turn a blind eye to their rescue?

In answer to the first question it should be pointed out that prior to the U.S. campaign in Afghanistan, there were thousands of Pakistani troops in that country. Most were spirited out in the days before the bombing began, days in which, one will recall, Gen. Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan spent most of his time urging restraint, delays, etc., all as a smokescreen for a complicated troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.

They couldn't be flown out en masse, for that would have looked ugly, and raised ugly questions about Pakistan's role in the Taliban and al Qaeda networks; instead, they had to be siphoned out overland, as it were, as unobtrusively as possible. Small garrisons were left behind--at Mazar-e-Sharif and Kunduz--in the belief that the war would end rather differently, and not with the kind of rout that we have seen. Gen. Musharraf, you will also recall, spent much energy, earlier in the campaign, urging the U.S. not to attack the Taliban frontline in the country's north. Why? Because he had troops there, alongside the Taliban, troops he hoped would hold the line for the Pakistan-Taliban axis in any postbellum settlement.

Why did the U.S. let Gen. Musharraf rescue his troops, only days after Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had rebuffed the general's pleas for safe passage out of Kunduz for Pakistani fighters trapped there? There are no easy answers, only uncomfortable ones. My guess is that Secretary of State Colin Powell, with whom the Pakistani dictator has developed an unseemly and unctuous rapport, called in all his chips on this one. The evasiveness of U.S. top brass on the subject suggests they are embarrassed over the affair. How could they not be? Weren't the men the Pakistanis rescued the very men this country is at war with? And weren't these some of the very men Mr. Rumsfeld said had only two choices before them at Kunduz, death or surrender?

One day, when the war in Afghanistan is well and truly done, we will get answers to all these questions. In the meantime, what we are beginning to learn is that if one enlists dubious allies, one runs the high risk of treading knee-deep in--how shall I put it?--foul-smelling organic waste matter.

And as allies go, Gen. Musharraf is as dubious as they get.

Mr. Varadarajan is deputy editorial features editor of The Wall Street Journal. His column appears Tuesdays.

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A guess: These flights, perhaps removed Osama bin Laden to Pakistan?

8 posted on 06/12/2002 6:36:13 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Registered
I usually love a good joke thread but I spotted this when I was looking for the special forces plane crash thread as to which I cannot find breaking news on the right panel or anywhere.
9 posted on 06/12/2002 6:37:09 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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I just pinged you to it ..... check your self-search.
10 posted on 06/12/2002 6:41:01 PM PDT by kayak
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Thank-you, will go look now.
11 posted on 06/12/2002 6:43:15 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: First_Salute
These flights, perhaps removed Osama bin Laden to Pakistan?

maybe in pieces...

12 posted on 06/12/2002 6:46:30 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Registered
Was Bill Clinton there doing a Lewinsky on him?

(Oh, gosh, I probably shouldn't have posted that!)

13 posted on 06/12/2002 6:48:14 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Registered
That's not Osama bin Laden.

Osama bin Laden is already dead. He died stewing in his own piss of a kidney infection.
He didn't die in battle, nor did he die facing the enemy, but while the rest of his men slept, his own urinary bladder strangled him.
14 posted on 06/12/2002 6:57:40 PM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: Registered
"Cut yourself a fresh slice of throat."
15 posted on 06/12/2002 7:10:10 PM PDT by yooper
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