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Notice the leftist vermin Zogby wants as partners.
1 posted on 07/10/2002 5:13:20 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Perhaps Mr. Zogby can explain the Arabs' psychotic hatred of the Jews...
2 posted on 07/10/2002 5:18:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Hmm. Wonder if Zogby polls are now going to reflect the American publics sudden desire for Bush to reign in the Israelis and demand they cede territory to Palestinians for a new state. Any Palestinian "state" is just a staging area for more terrorist assaults on Israel with the added bonus that any Israeli reaction would be construed as an act of war against another nation. No wonder they don't want a Palestinian state next door.
3 posted on 07/10/2002 5:24:59 AM PDT by Arkie2
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This guy seems to have left out the part where the Arab countries conspired together and killed thousands of innocent Americans in an act of war.
Strange how the left is blind to American death, but let another race have one die, and the lefties mourn for years.
The left is afraid. They're afraid their butts might get a boo boo. That's all they're really concerned about. They'd use their own mothers as shields. Their words are just a cover for their cowardness.
4 posted on 07/10/2002 5:28:08 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Zogby is free to relocate to Palestine at any time. No one is stopping him. Bye bye, James. Have a nice trip.
6 posted on 07/10/2002 5:30:52 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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Of course the moderate Moslems were disturbed, we did not surrender...
7 posted on 07/10/2002 5:31:27 AM PDT by American in Israel
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the profound gap in understanding that exists between the United States and the Arab world

And that gap is named "Israel's right to exist."

The Arab (and Jihadist) mind is obsessed with "driving the Jews into the sea," which just ain't gonna' happen.

Until they drop their obsessive lust for killing Jews, the Arabs will indeed remain frustrated. "humiliated," and unable to cope with the modern rational world.

Islam is a religion of mental illness.

8 posted on 07/10/2002 5:31:57 AM PDT by angkor
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At times, the United States delivered. It was US pressure that undid Shamir in 1992 and Netanyahu in 1996.

Let's see... hmmmm... American pressure... Bill Clinton in search of a personal legacy, realizes that he will never win the Nobel Peace Prize with Netanyahu in office... American pressure... nothing more than Bill Clinton's ego in warp speed.

9 posted on 07/10/2002 5:33:13 AM PDT by carton253
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rudely dismissive treatment of Palestinian aspirations for democracy

ROTFLOL! Democracy! Arafat? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

11 posted on 07/10/2002 5:36:21 AM PDT by carton253
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"It was US pressure that undid Shamir in 1992 and Netanyahu in 1996."

Zogby, the Arab, is disturbed enough to lie, It is interesting that he would jeopardize his livelihood by stating such biases. Netanyahu lost because Carville and his gangsters went to Israel to spread lies about Bebe in the manner which they have become so able. If Mary Matlin ever shoots the bastard, Carville, I would think she would get off with a defense of mental cruelty being exercized by ole snakehead.

12 posted on 07/10/2002 5:38:40 AM PDT by Movemout
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By ignoring the real Palestinian situation on the ground; a destroyed economy; a devastated infrastructure, a near complete military reoccupation, and, with all of this, heightened anger and despair ... For much of the last century the US stood before the world as a beacon of democracy and self-determination. Now, for many in the Arab world, the beacon has been all but extinguished.

And they have no one to blame but themselves

13 posted on 07/10/2002 5:42:26 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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Biography of Dr. James J. Zogby

Dr. James J. Zogby is founder and president of the Arab American Institute (AAI), a Washington, D.C.-based organization which serves as the political and policy research arm of the Arab American community. Since 1985, Dr. Zogby and AAI have led Arab American efforts to secure political empowerment in the U.S. Through voter registration, education and mobilization, AAI has moved Arab Americans into the political mainstream.

For the past two decades, Dr. Zogby has been involved in a full range of Arab American issues. A co-founder and chairman of the Palestine Human Rights Campaign in the late 1970s, he later co-founded and served as the Executive Director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. In 1982, he co-founded Save Lebanon, Inc., a private non-profit, humanitarian and non-sectarian relief organization which funds health care for Palestinian and Lebanese victims of war, and other social welfare projects in Lebanon. In 1985, Zogby founded AAI.

In 1993, following the signing of the Israeli-Palestinian peace accord in Washington, he was asked by Vice President Al Gore to lead Builders for Peace, a private sector committee to promote U.S. business investment in the West Bank and Gaza. In his capacity as co-president of Builders, Zogby frequently traveled to the Middle East with delegations led by Vice President Gore and late Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown. In 1994, with former U.S. Congressman Mel Levine, his colleague as co-president of Builders, Zogby led a U.S. delegation to the signing of the Israeli-Palestinian agreement in Cairo. Zogby also chaired a forum on the Palestinian economy at the Casablanca Economic Summit in 1994. After 1994, through Builders, Zogby worked with a number of US agencies to promote and support Palestinian economic development, including AID, OPIC, USTDA, and the Departments of State and Commerce.

He is a remarkable voice for calm and clarity. - Bill Clinton

Dr. Zogby has also been personally active in U.S. politics for many years. Most recently, in 1995 Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairman Don Fowler appointed Zogby as co-convener of the National Democratic Ethnic Coordinating Committee (NDECC), an umbrella organization of Democratic Party leaders of European and Mediterranean descent. On September 24, 1999, the NDECC elected Dr. James Zogby as its representative to the DNC's Executive Committee.

A lecturer and scholar on Middle East issues, U.S.-Arab relations, and the history of the Arab American community, Dr. Zogby appears frequently on television and radio. He has appeared as a regular guest on all the major network news programs. After hosting the popular "A Capital View" on the Arab Network of America for several years, he now hosts "Viewpoint with James Zogby" on Abu Dhabi Television, which can be seen Friday afternoons from 2:00-3:00pm EST. Since 1992, Dr. Zogby has also written a weekly column on U.S. politics for the major newspapers of the Arab world. His column, Washington Watch, currently is published in 14 Arab countries.

Dr. Zogby has testified before U.S. House and Senate committees, has been guest speaker on a number of occasions in the Secretary's Open Forum at the U.S. Department of State, and has addressed the United Nations and other international forums. He recently received a Distinguished Public Service Award from the U.S. Department of State "in recognition of outstanding contributions to national and international affairs."

Dr. Zogby is also active professionally beyond his involvement with the Arab American community. He is a board member of the human rights organization Middle East Watchand currently serves as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. In January 2001, he was selected by the President to be a member of the Central Asian-American Enterprise Fund and serves on its Board of Directors. Additionally, he recently attained a position with polling firm Zogby International as Senior Analyst.

In 1975, Dr. Zogby received his doctorate from Temple University's Department of Religion, where he studied under the Islamic scholar, Dr. Ismail al-Faruqi. He was a National Endowment for the Humanities Post-Doctoral Fellow at Princeton University in 1976, and on several occasions was awarded grants for research and writing by the National Endowment for the Humanities, the National Defense Education Act and the Mellon Foundation. Dr. Zogby received a Bachelor of Arts from Le Moyne College. In 1995, Le Moyne awarded Zogby an honorary doctoral of laws degree and in 1997, named him the college's outstanding alumnus.

14 posted on 07/10/2002 6:02:30 AM PDT by Gaston
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Thank you for this post. Depressing.

E-mail to Mr. Zogby

Dear Mr. Zogby:

I read your piece in the Arab News of 7/10 with considerable interest. I must agree that we are, '...in an h*** of a mess."

It is curious that you are able to decry Bush's 'strange & disturbing speech...' and not decry the Palestinian's strange and disturbing murder of babies by their own brainwashed youth, the strange and disturbing murder of 3,000 Americans, the strange and disturbing pan-Arab support for such murders.

In short, Mr. Zogby, you and your fellow-travelers are strange and disturbing. Mr. Bush has it exactly right. The failure to condemn the murderous Islamic mindset is tautologically equal to supporting it.

What you and all Arabs must recognize is this. Much as the murderous Japanese of 1937 in Nanking were not amenable to any form of reason, so it is with much of the Islamic world. While most Americans would be glad to reason with a reasonable opponent, we will not, cannot bargain with the unreasoning murderers, the Arafats of the world.

Until we see that the Arabs "love their own children more than they hate Israel" (Golda Meir), until we see condemnation of Arab rejoicing at blood-soaked innocents, until we see you, Mr. Zogby, cease the hand wringing over a clear-minded address by our President combatting this evil...until then, we recognize that the Islamic murderers and their supporters will of necessity be treated the way their oriental analogues were six decades ago.

Like the Japanese militarists, the Islamic militants are underestimating us and overestimating themselves. In short, they are digging a lot of graves. You really want something to wring your hands about? Try this: An America truly awakened to the nature of the unreasoning militant Islamic mind.

17 posted on 07/10/2002 6:27:05 AM PDT by esopman
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If left unchecked, the corrosive force "they" represent will only further erode the structure of relationships that have shaped our world...

We're taking care of that problem Mr. Zogby, one terrorist at a time OR if we get lucky we catch a whole nest.

18 posted on 07/10/2002 6:28:50 AM PDT by evad
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What is truly amazing about the Arabs is the persistent hatred of the Jews and the assumption they have the right to kill all and any who disagree with them. Indeed, Moslem countries are noteworthy for their "bloody borders."

The big, current claims for Islam is that if you are a man you can enslave 1/2 the population (women), kill anyone your Imman gives you permission to and, at the same time, claim your religion is one of peace.

Israel won't go away. The Jews aren't going to roll over for a medieval psychosis which has little substance or power without the oil money. Islam, as currently constructed and practiced in the Arab world, is fast becoming a joke.

22 posted on 07/10/2002 7:35:02 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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No Zogby, you are not "an American" as you so piously state. You are an Arab-American by your own choosing, and there is a great difference.
23 posted on 07/10/2002 7:51:43 AM PDT by gaspar
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...the US?s failure to provide leadership and the Arab reaction to this distressing situation."

What a complete idiot. President Bush showed the palestinians the path to peace (ie elect a leader not compromised by terror). The US cannot force them to do this.

To paraphrase Morpheus in the movie "The Matrix": I can only show you the door. It is up to you to walk through it."

25 posted on 07/10/2002 9:12:31 AM PDT by rudypoot
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zogby: most Americans do not know arabs Well, mr. zogby, name me an American who do not know what happened on 09.11.01. Do this, and maybe your credibility maybe restored.
26 posted on 07/10/2002 10:40:18 AM PDT by desertcry
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