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South Carolina FReepers to meet July 20, 2002

Posted on 07/14/2002 11:11:14 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama

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To: dixie sass
Okay Dixie...I surrender. I am just amused by how much people can get sidelined by non-issues....I'll say no more...

Our Constitution and Bill of Rights being paramount.

In case anyone has any questions about our family's service to the United States of America, remember we both served in combat zones under the U.S. flag and we will both be laid to rest under it at Arlington National Cemetery when our days are over...

(Time for one more bit of humor? Didn't Arlington belong to Gen. R.E. Lee? And isn't there a rather LARGE Confederate monument there? Oh...the honor....)

Bye! (smile guys!)

Katherine

41 posted on 07/15/2002 3:48:26 PM PDT by kjenerette
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To: PistolPaknMama
Hoorah for the Confederate Flag and SC!

As for Maurice's, I found this fifth stanza Of "Dixie's Land" by Dan Emmet, arranged by George Rosey, published 1908:

Dar's buckwheat cakes an' Ingen' batter,
Makes you fat or a little fatter;
Look away! Look away! Look away Dixie Land.
Den hoe it down and scratch your grabble,
To Dixie's Land I'm bound to trabble,
Look away! Look away! Look away Dixie Land.

Hoorah for Dixie!

42 posted on 07/15/2002 4:11:25 PM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: kjenerette
Oh boy Katherine, you now have the perfect diet - chasing a toddler!!!

43 posted on 07/15/2002 4:13:02 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: CWRWinger
Amen!
44 posted on 07/15/2002 4:15:35 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
On a side note, I also am proud of the South Carolina flag and what it stands for

Our beautiful blue Palmetto Flag was first raised in January 1861 in defiance to the centralist, oppressive, government of Lincoln. It is truly the first Confederate Flag.

I'm proud of that too.

45 posted on 07/15/2002 4:54:12 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: kjenerette
(Time for one more bit of humor? Didn't Arlington belong to Gen. R.E. Lee? And isn't there a rather LARGE Confederate monument there? Oh...the honor....

I'm not sure about the large Confederate monument there, but yes that land did belong to General Lee. The yankee government seized it as retribution and began burying yankees in his front yard as an insult.

46 posted on 07/15/2002 4:58:32 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: PistolPaknMama
"I'm not sure about the large Confederate monument there, but yes that land did belong to General Lee. The yankee government seized it as retribution and began burying yankees in his front yard as an insult."

 

Of course there is a Confederate Monument at Arlington - a very very large monument. Remember, it has only become Politically Incorrect to honor our fallen Southern heros and our Battle Flag for about the past 10-years. By the turn of the Century (1900) the soldiers who fought the war, and the Federal Government had a great deal of respect for each other and in 1900 a section in Arlington was authorized for the exclusive burial of Confederates soldiers and their wives.

The Memorial Monument was sculpted by Moses Ezekiel who also made a famous statue of George Washington. Ezekiel served as a Sergeant of Company C of the Cadets, Virginia Military Institute during the Civil War. After that service, he graduated from VMI in 1866 - he is buried near the base of the Memorial. He was also a Jewish Confederate. Yes, there were many of them along with Native American Confederates, Hispanic Confederates and even Black Confederates.

The cornerstone of the Monument was laid in 1912 and one of the speakers was James Tanner, Commander-in-Chief of the Grand Army of the Republic(Union Veterans Organization). The Monument was dedicated on June 4, 1914 with President Woodrow Wilson making the principal address before a crowd which included thousands of former Union and Confederate soldiers.

I'm sorry for the History Lesson, but I have to repress a head-shake when someone buys into the Neo-History of the South and the Politically Correct attitude towards the Battle Flag and our small city Confederate monuments. How many people realize that there are dozens of FEDERAL MILITARY INSTALLATIONS today that are named in honor of Southern Generals? I suppose the 'I don't want to eat at Marurice's crowd,' would take issue with Ft. Bragg - home of our Special Forces and Delta Force - etc. Bragg was a Confederate General....just go down the list and see for yourself. Ft. Benning, Fort Lee, Fort Polk...etc....maybe we need to rename these Federally Funded 'Confederate Honoring' Military Bases to something more PC?! Fort Jane Fonda? Fort Bill Clinton - Fort Fritz Hollings....oy vey!

Anyway, there is pretty good site which contains some great pictures and information of the Arlington Confederate Monument itself at the following: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.com/csa-mem.htm

More information on specific Confederate burials at Arlington National Cemetery is at: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.com/csa.htm

A few that may be of particular interest is a Canadian Confederate Jerry Cronan one of 40,000 Canadians who had fought in the American Civil War, Joseph Wheeler
Lieutenant General, Confederate States, Major General, United States Army and a Member of the United States Congress, and Juliet Ann Opie Hopkins Nurse, Confederate States of America who was wounded in battle and was called the "Florence Nightingale of the South." and many others.

For additional information check out the official US Government Arlington site at: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/visitor_information/Confederate_Memorial.html

NOTE: Please note however, the official information has been rewritten in the modern PC terms - Van first learned of the monument (he served with the EUSA/UNC Honor Guard Detachment as a young Lieutenant) The old official description was quite different and almost 'gushing' with admiration for the 'brave' Southern Soldiers.

American History 101class dismissed...

Katherine

47 posted on 07/15/2002 7:06:25 PM PDT by kjenerette
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To: PistolPaknMama
The South Carolina State Flag

Dating back to 1765, the South Carolina State Flag reminds us of its role in the American Revolution and maintains its place in the anals of the Civil War with a design that was formulated as a National banner when the state seceded from the union on December 20, 1860.

Components of the current state flag were first seen in 1765, on a banner carried by South Carolina protesters of the Stamp Act. The banner that the protesters hoisted displayed three white crescents on a blue background. Ten years later in 1775, Colonel William Moultrie was asked by the South Carolina Revolutionary Council of Safety to design a banner for the use of South Carolina troops. Colonel Moultrie chose a simple and direct design that displayed the crescent (new moon)on a blue field. The new flag was the same blue color of the soldier's uniforms and the silver crescent echoed the symbol that the soldiers wore on the front of their caps.

Almost 100 years later, South Carolina seceded from the Union it had fought to create. A new banner was needed to fly above the newly created nation. Many designs were reviewed but the General Assembly settled on one simple change to Moultrie's Revolutionary War design. A Palmetto tree was added and centered on the blue field. The Palmetto, the South Carolina State Tree, had been attributed as instrumental in Colonel Moultrie's defense of Sullivan's Island against an attack by British warships in June, 1776. Cannonballs fired at the fort from the British ships could not destroy the walls of the fort which were built of Palmetto logs. Instead, the cannonballs simply sank into the soft, tough Palmetto wood.

The flag that flies over the state of South Carolina today is of the same design that flew over the independent South Carolina during the Civil War.

I'm trying to learn to do posting like Katherine does, it make take me a century or two to learn! Anyway, this is the complete history of that beautiful blue flag. Note of interest: While flying the flag at the memorial in DC, stand watie was approached and asked to stop flying "that a ra bby flag". What a shame that we don't recognize the flags of all the states. Some of them are quite beautiful.

48 posted on 07/15/2002 10:37:37 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: kjenerette; PistolPaknMama
My mother always said that South Carolina's are like that Palmetto - resilient. We have proved it time after time.
49 posted on 07/15/2002 10:41:01 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
What a shame that we don't recognize the flags of all the states. Some of them are quite beautiful.

Yep, except Georgia's new PC flag. It looks like an advertisement for Disneyland.

I'm gonna have to find the a-rab-by flag and see which one you're talking about.

50 posted on 07/16/2002 6:02:25 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: dixie sass
I like some of the other state flags too...Mississippi and Florida come to mind...
51 posted on 07/16/2002 7:40:08 AM PDT by kjenerette
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To: PistolPaknMama
Your post about the primary was on the money. I've been wondering about the fallout and thought the meeting would be as good a measuring stick as any. On the other hand, perhaps it will be equally informative as to the no-shows.

I have to be at work at 2, and will try my best. Everybody's gotta eat!
52 posted on 07/16/2002 9:37:35 AM PDT by Gwaihir
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To: golindseygo
Looking forward to meeting you!
53 posted on 07/16/2002 11:25:20 AM PDT by dixie sass
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To: PistolPaknMama
Do you remember what happened to stand watie at the 9-11 memorial in, gosh, I think it was in the Dec/Jan time frame. The flag incident?
54 posted on 07/16/2002 11:29:23 AM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
That's supposed to be South Carolinian's are resilient like the Palmetto. Brother, oh well, what can you expect at almost two in the morning!
55 posted on 07/16/2002 11:30:51 AM PDT by dixie sass
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To: PistolPaknMama
Snert! I'm bring my tenny shoes then. Camp songs? Holding hands? Well okay, if you insist, but bring marshmellows and chocolate and graham crackers.
56 posted on 07/16/2002 11:35:40 AM PDT by dixie sass
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To: PistolPaknMama
lol, I quite agree about the GA flag.
57 posted on 07/16/2002 11:40:25 AM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
Info on the Pig Park is here:

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~thc/bbqtour/maurice.html

This sounds like a great place. Sorry, don't know how to link. Have fun.

58 posted on 07/16/2002 11:49:53 AM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: AGreatPer
Thank you for the information! How is the South Central PA Chapter doing? I hope that things are going "great guns" for y'all! Come and visit, ya heah!
59 posted on 07/16/2002 12:28:35 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: kjenerette
You betcha! Oh, lol, I got the message... right before I went online. Understood, lol, you were right in your assessment of the situation.

I was involved here and in the Patriots Room at Paltalk last night. Steve finished up his presentation of the 6th, 7th and 8th amendments to the Constitution.

My presentation is next Monday and I have been trying to pull everything together into a logical and understandable explanation of the Ninth and everytime I think I have it down, well, sighhhhhhhhh, I am as bad about last minute additions and changes as your husband is!

I'll be working on it right up to the time the Patriots room starts broadcasting over Crusader Radio.

Anyway, how is Wilson doing now that she has found her feet?
60 posted on 07/16/2002 12:36:33 PM PDT by dixie sass
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