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Homosexual 'Big Brothers'?
CitizenLink ^ | 7/15/02 | Bill Maier, Psy.D.

Posted on 07/15/2002 8:28:47 PM PDT by ppaul

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To: truenospinzone
I couldn't care less how a homosexual chooses to live his life, and as an agnostic, I don't use my perception of a deity's views towards homosexuality as a barometer of my opinions. But as a realist, I see the inherent danger in placing an adult in intimate, private company with a child of the gender he or she is sexually attracted to. I don't think a heterosexual male should be a Girl Scout Troop leader, I wouldn't want to see a young boy in this program with a Big Sister, and I don't see any reason to have a homosexual male keep close company with a young boy.

I'm a religious guy, and I agree. The primary reasons for not doing this are that: 1) some boys will inevitably be molested (as in Boy Scouts in years past, or as in the Catholic Church) and 2) the vast, vast majority of parents don't want homosexuals conditioning their young sons to start thinking about men in a sexual way. But I would also point out that the gay rights groups show absolutely no respect for people's honestly held religious belief that God does not condone things like anal intercourse. On that score, we should live and let live. Gays can lead their lives the way they want. If they want to engage in promiscuous anal intercourse with lots of anonymous partners, that's really their business. Religious people can lead their lives they way they want (including teaching their children what they believe). BUt I'm glad we agree here - putting boys and young men in the company of homosexual men who are sexually attracted to them is stupid and dangerous.

61 posted on 07/16/2002 6:18:40 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: ppaul
BTTT
62 posted on 07/16/2002 6:19:18 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: William Terrell
The solution would be to always pair a homosexual to a child of the opposite sex.

Or even better - the homosexuals with the preference for the young should be taking care of the elderly of the opposite sex. This way they still can do good deeds and the temptation is removed. Old people need help too!

63 posted on 07/16/2002 6:19:30 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: kapn kuek
If the truth were in the news night after night the public would be justly repulsed by the vileness of what the homosexuals do.

A lot of typical homosexual behavior is truly repulsive to most people. It's their right to engage in it; it's not their right to expect that we won't be repulsed by it.

64 posted on 07/16/2002 6:20:44 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: A. Pole
Or even better - the homosexuals with the preference for the young should be taking care of the elderly of the opposite sex. This way they still can do good deeds and the temptation is removed. Old people need help too!

Absolutely. We had a big ruckus with the Boy Scout issue in our town, and all the parents kept asking one young (active) homosexual man why he felt the strong need and desire to be an assistant scoutmaster. He kept saying that he wanted to contribute to society. We all said fine, just do that where you're not sexually tempted by the teenage boys around you. When asked if the boys in the troop sexually tempted him, he could not answer in the negative.

65 posted on 07/16/2002 6:24:19 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: DoughtyOne
I realize that not all homosexuals go after children...

True... but it's sort of like leaving an alcoholic in charge of your bar.

66 posted on 07/16/2002 6:25:08 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: ppaul
These people are predators just like the predators of the night who kill and move on to other prey.
67 posted on 07/16/2002 6:26:41 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: yendu bwam
"Enroll those kids in Boy Scouts. They'll fare, on average, much better. And they'll have real men and fathers as role models."

I wonder....

68 posted on 07/16/2002 6:27:55 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: yendu bwam
"It's their right to engage in it.."

Whoa - so you think they have a "right" to engage in this homosexual behavior? Where does this "right" come from?

If they have a "right" to engage in this sin, then maybe these "celebate" priests that like young boys are just exercising the same "right".

Thinking faggots have a right to their lifestyle explains why you have the problem with your priests.

69 posted on 07/16/2002 6:31:16 AM PDT by Bill Rice
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To: ppaul
Now I would trust my nephew, who is gay and 32 years old, with my kids. My kids are now 18, 19, and 21. He did spend time alone with them when they were younger. There was never a problem. But he is family. Would I trust my sons with a gay Big Brother? No. I just wouldn't have the same degree of trust in a gay Big Brother as I would in a straight one. Not after all the Catholic church news about gay/pedophile priests. Maybe that isn't fair to the rest of the priesthood, but they are MY kids, and I have the right to think and feel anyway I want to when it comes to my kids. I wouldn't want them to have a gay scout leader either. I had a lesbian teacher when I was in high school. She was one of the best science teachers on earth, laughed all the time. Never bothered anyone. But she was still in the closet then and had to keep it a secret in order to keep her job.

I think people are gay due to either a malfunction in their brain -- or a maturing that doesn't take place around age 12 or younger. They never make the break from best buddies to liking the opposite sex. But, there could be many causes of homosexuality. I just think it is an arrested development of the chemistry of the brain.

70 posted on 07/16/2002 6:33:20 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: ppaul; All
"Themes of adult-child sex are common in gay publications. The nation's largest gay publisher, Alyson Publications, which distributes "Daddy' s Roommate" and other books that promote homosexuality to children, also publishes books advocating man-boy sex, or pedophilia..."

GLSEN Encourages Teens In Anal SEX "Don't give up."

"Pedophilia Chic" Reconsidered (The taboo against sex with children continues to erode)

Report: Pedophilia more common among 'gays'

71 posted on 07/16/2002 6:35:40 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: Bill Rice
I think gays should remain celebate. Period. Totally. Then they are committing no sin or sodomy. That is what I would do if I were gay.
& I don't want them to be Big Brothers or scout leaders or priests. If I knew the guy were gay, I wouldn't allow my son to be in the program with a gay Big Bro. Now my oldest son who is 21 is having to deal with two of his friends are gay. My son is hetero, has a steady girlfriend for two years. We see the hell the two gay young men are going through. They are depressed. I wish someone could find a magic cure for them! I think they would love to be turned into hetero so they could avoid this life of hell.
72 posted on 07/16/2002 6:37:42 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: yendu bwam
He kept saying that he wanted to contribute to society.

Good. So why he doesn't want to help the elderly?

73 posted on 07/16/2002 6:39:09 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Bill Rice
Thinking faggots have a right to their lifestyle explains why you have the problem with your priests.

I think the lifestyles of many homosexuals are absolutely disgusting, perverse, dangerous, and self-damaging. But it's a free country. They don't have to share my religious beliefs (though I think they would be greatly helped if they did!), or my beliefs about sexuality. However, when they get near my kids, WATCH OUT! There is no right to that. As for the Catholic Church (my church), that church has allowed thousands of priests to ignore their vows, ignore God's word on homosexual behavior, and to rape, spiritually and physically, thousands of teenage boys. To me (and millions of others), that's an abomination.

74 posted on 07/16/2002 6:44:31 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: EdReform
I read your link on anal sex....

It said "the anus is not only an organ to remove waste. It's very sexually exciteable...Your first few times having anal sex"

The thread is locked, it is an old thread, and we can't post replies on it. So I am replying to that thread here. Anal sex is where AIDs comes from! It breaks the skin, germs and etc. get inside the skin, in the bloodstream, etc. Mutliple partners having anal sex, sharing dirty needles, and presto! AIDs.... Then they want more millions from USA to fight AIDs worldwide. My 21 year old son keeps saying they know what they have to do to prevent AIDs already!!!!! He calls anal sex Ru Ru. He says No More Ru Ru = no more AIDs.

75 posted on 07/16/2002 6:44:41 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: ppaul
Maybe they could just hire some defrocked priests.
76 posted on 07/16/2002 6:46:16 AM PDT by TC Rider
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To: buffyt
We see the hell the two gay young men are going through. They are depressed. I wish someone could find a magic cure for them! I think they would love to be turned into hetero so they could avoid this life of hell.

I have a couple of homosexual friends I've known since high school. Their lives have been hell also. Their relationships are fluid and volatile, they are both compelled to seek anonymous partners in places like parking lots and over the internet, one has AIDs, one is alcoholic. To me, homosexuality is a severe mental illness (which in many cases can be cured). I have compassion for them, and as a religious guy, I don't think they'll escape their hell without God's help.

77 posted on 07/16/2002 6:47:41 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Blood of Tyrants; yendu bwam
You both had such great comments! I think these should be quotes for the year on this topic!

Blood said "The child abusers are...parents who force their staid morality onto the young people in their custody.

There you go. A new definition of "abuse" will be "forcing" your morality on your children. Of course, forcing them to accept a perverted lifestyle will be considered "normal" and "enlightened".

God help us."

And Yendu said "Homosexuals have the right to lead their lives the way they want. They don't have an automatic right to be around other people's kids (though they think they do). And you're right. They have brought enormous shame on the Catholic Church, while raping the bodies and torturing the psyches of thousands of teenage Catholic boys. In that situation, I assure you, there is great outrage."

It just seems that there is no value to doing the right thing anymore, period. We need to take this country back from the ones who want to destroy it from within.

78 posted on 07/16/2002 6:49:19 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: buffyt
He says No More Ru Ru = no more AIDs.

Anal homosexual intercourse among anonymous and promiscuous partners is the primary cause of the AIDs crisis in this country (along with gay organizations' refusing to institute common sense reporting procedures required for ALL other communicable diseases). Your son is right.

79 posted on 07/16/2002 6:49:24 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: buffyt
I think people are gay due to either a malfunction in their brain -- or a maturing that doesn't take place around age 12 or younger. They never make the break from best buddies to liking the opposite sex.

I think it is more environmental and self-choice.

Sexual gratification is such an overpowering urge in some that they will try many different ways to gratify their urges. If they think that nothing is wrong with homosexual behavior then they will try that method for sexual gratification. They are either recruited by homosexual adults or pressured from their peers. Once they are introduced into that lifestyle they find it difficult to change back to normal behavior.

Homosexuals are never born that way! What if a bunch of men that performed cunnilingus on their wives started an activist pressure group and demanded that society grant them special treatment because of their sexual behavior? It would be the same as the homosexual movement.

80 posted on 07/16/2002 6:49:57 AM PDT by kapn kuek
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