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I don't seem to remember the Bible complaining about dripping wax on ones partner, or flogging them, and don't really understand what business it is of the authors to crab about this sort of thing.

While this may not be specifically addressed in the Bible, what the Christian church promotes is a respect for human life and its dignity. Many Christians believe that this type of conduct serves to debase and humiliate the human spirit.

Taking it another step, there is nothing more that satan would love than to debase and diminish the human spirit, through whatever means (homosexuality or others). For a person to allow themselves to experience this type of lifestyle would result in them being in bondage (both spriritually and literally) to this and to the people that promote it.

I believe this is what the author was trying to point out. As Christians, we are in a spiritual war with the percieved evils that promote this type of conduct. Of course, the bottom line is that God gives all of us free will to choose the life we lead. If that's your thing, then go ahead and do it. But as Christians, it's incumbent upon us to do what we can to discourage it and show these folks a better way.

First off Peter, I want to thank you for replying in a mature and adult manner, and not in the way your typical knee-jerk liberal at DU would.

I believe this is what the author was trying to point out. As Christians, we are in a spiritual war with the percieved evils that promote this type of conduct. Of course, the bottom line is that God gives all of us free will to choose the life we lead. If that's your thing, then go ahead and do it. But as Christians, it's incumbent upon us to do what we can to discourage it and show these folks a better way.

Well, I suppose thats the rub. While I think fisting and watersports are gross beyond measure, I don't exactly consider them "evil" per se...I guess the part of the article that disturbed me was what I felt to be the authors call for all of these behaviors to be eradicated EVERYWHERE, not just from workshops in the church. That's what got me worried, because all of the sudden, we get these Constitution-violating socialist rules that try to dictate peoples behavior in their own bedroom. Perhaps I read too much into the article, on that particular facet...

If nothing else, your argument has swayed me much more over to the side of "this really should NOT be happening in a Church." And again, the only advice I can offer is that folks need to vote with their feet. If your church does it, get them to stop. If they won't, go elsewhere.