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Finding patent truth in JPEG claim
CNET News.com ^ | July 22, 2002 | Robert Lemos

Posted on 07/23/2002 4:52:47 AM PDT by Born to Conserve

A small videoconferencing company is laying claim to the ubiquitous JPEG format, igniting a backlash from some consumers and from a standards organization.

Austin, Texas-based Forgent Networks posted a press release to its site earlier this month claiming to own a patent covering the technology behind JPEG, one of the most popular formats for compressing and sharing images on the Internet. According to the firm, the devices covered by the patent include cameras, cell phones, camcorders, personal digital assistants, scanners and other devices.

It took a little more than a week for the statement to find its way to the Joint Photographic Experts Group (JPEG) committee, which denounced any attempts to derive fees from the standard.

"It has always been a strong goal of the JPEG committee that its standards should be implementable in their baseline form without payment of royalty and license fees, and the committee would like to record their disappointment that some organizations appear to be working in conflict with this goal," Richard Clark, managing director of U.K.-based Web software company Elysium and the head of the U.K. JPEG delegation, wrote on the committee's behalf.

Patent claims are common in the technology industry--the real trick is to persuade companies to pay royalties. Scores of dot-com companies, for example, claimed to own key e-commerce patents in the late 1990s, and their shares often soared when their patents were granted.

But most companies failed to generate enough royalties to keep them out of bankruptcy court, much less generate million-dollar paydays.

In Forgent's case, because the claim strikes at the heart of a widely used consumer technology, it sparked an immediate response from an array of people.

"Maybe this type of patent nonsense will finally get more companies to see that open standards are in fact a safer way to build their products," a member of the Slashdot community wrote in one of more than 1,200 comments posted on the tech news and discussion Web site.

Such responses have followed other questionable claims to Internet patents, such as Amazon's infamous 1-Click patent and British Telecom's claims to have created hyperlinking.

Patent "in the ballpark" So, is Forgent taking a shot in the dark at generating some royalty revenue or does it have a legitimate claim?

In this case, Forgent's patent No. 4,698,672--or "672" as it is being called--appears to stand up to initial technical scrutiny, said Rich Belgard, an independent patent consultant. It has both a solid technical pedigree--created by a research scientist well known in the image compression community--and apparently applies to the JPEG technology.

"It's in the ballpark of reality," Belgard said.

Moreover, the firm has been able to persuade two Japanese companies to ante up cash.

In April, it signed a deal to license the patent for $15 million with a large, though unnamed, Japanese digital camera player, according to company filings and to an industry expert.

In May, Forgent signed a "multimillion-dollar patent license" with Sony for the compression technology, the company said in a press release and in filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Jeffrey Dabbs, a research analyst with San Antonio-based financial research firm Kercheville & Co., estimates the actual fee to be between $17 million and $18 million.

"They think there is $100 million that they can get from Japanese companies," said Dabbs, who owns stock in Forgent.

A patent miracle? The focus on patents is relatively new for Forgent, a company that for more than 20 years had been known as Video Telecom, or VTel, before changing its name in August 2001.

A patent deal nearly two years ago that resulted in $45 million payoff whetted Forgent's appetite for the world of intellectual property. Since then, a new management team has taken the company from a maker of videoconferencing hardware with declining revenue to a video technology firm focusing on software and patents. Its portfolio includes nearly 40 patents, with another 35 in the works.

The claim to JPEG technology ownership arose from a data compression patent that Forgent acquired from videoconferencing hardware maker Compression Labs in 1997, said Ken Kalinoski, chief technology officer for Forgent.

If he's right, it couldn't come at a better time for the company, whose revenue has hit the doldrums. In 1997, the company collected $200 million selling high-end video conferencing solutions and services, but for the latest year, ending July 2001, sales fell to $38 million.

In a corporate restructuring and management shakeup, the company exited the video hardware business in August 2000 and slashed more than 250 jobs.

Kalinoski believes patent 672 has incredible potential. However, while Forgent has gotten two companies to sign its licensing agreement, sooner or later the patent will be contested. Kalinoski believes the company is ready.

"This is not a willy-nilly scenario that has come up," he said. "There has been six months of due diligence as to what this patent is all about."

Patents filed on Internet technology and business practices have taken off in recent years and are nearly always contentious.

Two years ago, Unisys accelerated its program of collecting royalties on the Graphics Interchange Format, or GIF, another popular format for graphics on the Web. Unisys started pursuing licensing in earnest after the Web caught on with mainstream consumers, and it reached agreements with Microsoft and AOL in 1996.

Other companies have resorted to a controversial tactic of applying for patents while pushing the technology in question in standards committees.

In 1995, Dell Computer agreed not to enforce its patent rights for the technology included in the VL-bus graphics standards, as part of an agreement with the Federal Trade Commission. The FTC had charged Dell with pushing for the adoption of a technology in the standards committee, without disclosing when asked, that the company held a patent.

Sun Microsystems and Rambus have both been investigated for similar actions.

Who was first? Forgent didn't do any of the original work of the patent that they now own; that was done by Compression Labs' Wen-Hsiung Chen and Daniel Klenke.

Chen, who joined Cisco after selling Compression Labs and a second firm to the networking giant, published several papers in the 1970s and 1980s on image compression and transformation. Some experts credit him with the creation of a specific kind of image manipulation--the discrete cosine transform--used in the JPEG format.

Yet he or others may have published all the components of the 672 patent more than a year before before the application date for the patent. Known as prior art, such publications can undermine a patent.

"There is a lot of work around that can predate the Forgent patent," said the JPEG's Clark. "Most of the JPEG standard was pretty well formulated by the time this patent came out."

While Chen and Klenke applied for 672 in October 1986, the same year that the Joint Photographic Experts Group was formed, the push for the standard had begun more than four years earlier. Three international standards bodies--the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), the International Telegraph and Telephone Consultative Committee (CCITT), and the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC)--had begun the search for an image compression standard in 1982.

Clark of the JPEG group said Chen may have sat on one of the committees.

Chen could not be reached for comment, but Kalinoski of Forgent denied the claim and stressed that he believed that Chen never took part in any committees. "We have had those discussions with Wen and absolutely he has confirmed that he had no part in those standards discussions."

Even if he had, it's unlikely his participation would be considered improper, said patent expert Belgard.

"Even if he was on the committee, if there was no rule (prohibiting patent applications on the standard), then...it's not illegal," he said.

That leaves the question of prior art as the issue that will determine whether the patent is valid.

While the debate rages, Forgent refuses to slow its royalties effort. Kalinoski said the company is looking for more royalties from other digital camera makers and the company is looking at companies in other industries as well.

One certainty: Forgent has a wide swath of the Internet in its sights, as it will consider any company that doesn't pay to use JPEG a pirate.

"This is very analogous to the music industry, who have said that the people who have been using our methods and materials have been stealing our intellectual property and this needs to stop," Kalinoski said. "We are just asking for the same thing."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: forgent; jpeg; patents
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This issue comes down to capitalism vs. socialism. Are you biased against Forgent because they may own something you want for free?
1 posted on 07/23/2002 4:52:47 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve
Yes I want it for free, but I could also use a different format if I don't want to pay. I just don't like the "try this it's free, now here's the bill" approach. Where have they been all this time and why weren't they charging for it earlier?
2 posted on 07/23/2002 5:18:12 AM PDT by kaboom
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To: Born to Conserve
Are you biased against Forgent because they may own something you want for free?

No, I'm biased against them because I despise lossy compression schemes.

3 posted on 07/23/2002 5:21:39 AM PDT by neutrino
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To: Born to Conserve
I am biased against Forgent because there is, in my mind, some question as to whether they really do own the JPEG standard. If they do own it, and are asserting proprietary rights AFTER Compression Labs said that they didn't have any outstanding patents to the standards committee, then they've committed fraud.

Either way, I think I am right in paraphrasing Desi Arnez: "For-GENT, you got some 'SPLAININ' to do!"

4 posted on 07/23/2002 5:32:28 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Born to Conserve
Only a collectivist totalitarian at heart can really believe one can "own" an idea. Property can only legitimately apply to entities. A potential is not property. If you and I both have an idea how to produce a product, and I actually produce it, I have created porperty. The idea is not property until someone actually produces a product. It also makes no difference who thought of the idea first, or who got to the patent office first.

The concept of patents requires the the acceptance of the concept that it is ok to initiate the use of force against who have used no force.

Patents are nothing more than another gimmick by which governments create "protected" industries. It is not so much socialistic (where the govenment owns all the business) as fascist (where the government only controls all the business).

By what capitalistic principle is the use of force to prevent someone from creating a product justified.

Hank

5 posted on 07/23/2002 5:35:11 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Born to Conserve
The company is currently accepting applications from qualified persons who are interested in joining their team of thousands which will soon begin putting the toothpaste back in the tube.
6 posted on 07/23/2002 5:36:18 AM PDT by Petronski
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To: Born to Conserve
Detrimental reliance. You are not allowed to sit and allow the world to adopt a standard and then jump up and say, "oh by the way, you owe me money." If this was being discussed on an industry standard board and this was adopted by the whole industry, it defies logic this company would not notice.

It is interesting they are going to argue the patent in japan. In that country patents are very very specific. (compared to the usa which is a broader interpritation). Additionally, there are no juries in japan. So this will be decided by a judge if it ends up in japanese court.

If they push too hard, their "system" will be dumped by the computer world. Some new standard will take over and their patent will be worthless.

Their mistake was not acting faster on their claim. A patent only buys the right to defend your idea.
7 posted on 07/23/2002 5:37:21 AM PDT by Greeklawyer
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To: Born to Conserve
"Are you biased against Forgent because they may own something you want for free?"

The key word is "may".

However, if they do in fact own it, and decide to pursue an ex post facto "de-public-domaining" of the standard, they might want to research the history of a company that went by the name "SEA".

A web search for the terms "sea", "katz", "pkarc", "pkpak" and "zip" might prove enlightening for them.

8 posted on 07/23/2002 5:38:31 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Hank Kerchief
Socialist/anarchist tripe like that can only serve to muddy the waters surrounding an issue like this, which is not about property rights per se, but appears rather to be about someone trying to stake a claim after the fact.

This case is IMO more about prior use than it is about IP rights.

9 posted on 07/23/2002 5:41:39 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Greeklawyer
"If they push too hard, their 'system' will be dumped by the computer world. Some new standard will take over and their patent will be worthless."

Bingo. Stuff like that is the reason the world uses .ZIP files instead of .ARC files.

10 posted on 07/23/2002 5:42:57 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Born to Conserve
It doesn't bother me. If JPEG turns out to be non-free (after they've spent all this time NOT enforcing their patent, then I'll just move on to PNG. That's in the public domain.
11 posted on 07/23/2002 5:43:34 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce
It doesn't bother me. If JPEG turns out to be non-free (after they've spent all this time NOT enforcing their patent, then I'll just move on to PNG. That's in the public domain.

...until someone comes up with a submarine patent that covers PNG's, anyway...

12 posted on 07/23/2002 5:46:17 AM PDT by general_re
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To: Hank Kerchief
Patents are a statutory creation. As a statutory creation they are limited in their force and effect to their written word.

Let us not forget the purpose of a patent is to encourage inovation. In exchange for inovation, a creator gets exclusive marketing rights to their idea for a set period of time. Afterwards, anyone can use it and build more inovation. Inovation equals profit.

International patent law is complex and country dependent. Some countries only pay lip service to intilectual property enforcement.
13 posted on 07/23/2002 5:52:07 AM PDT by Greeklawyer
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To: Born to Conserve
If the JPEG format receives patent protection, people will quickly switch to other image compression protocols.

And who's to prevent someone from tweaking JPEG compression, say, using 256 colors instead of 128. Voila, new patent, or new free protocol!

14 posted on 07/23/2002 5:56:15 AM PDT by Nebullis
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To: Born to Conserve
Actually, what's being debated now is "do they own something."

A later debate may be "can they collect."

15 posted on 07/23/2002 5:56:54 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Born to Conserve
If you own a patent you have an obligation to defend it or loose it.

When you lay low several years while a technology slowly becomes a standard and do nothing until long after it is widely accepted, I think you loose your rights to it. Its not as if JPEG use was some hidden secret for the last 10+ years.

I hope it is contested and I hope they loose. Had they been honest and defended their position from the beginning it would be different. It could well be "their" technology would have never been adopted as a standard had they pursued it earlier as they were obligated to do.

BTW, I have a patent in the electronics field and I strongly support intellectual property rights. These guys so abused their position they should loose any right they did have to it. And that is provided they can prove there was no commercially used prior art before their application was filed.
16 posted on 07/23/2002 6:00:50 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB; Greeklawyer
If you own a patent you have an obligation to defend it or loose it.

That's not exactly true, but I'll let the lawyer discuss laches ;)

17 posted on 07/23/2002 6:07:45 AM PDT by general_re
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To: Hank Kerchief
The Chinese fully agree with you...
18 posted on 07/23/2002 6:08:06 AM PDT by DB
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To: general_re
If you don't defend it, no one will for you.

If the patent infringement is unknown to you then of course you have rightful claim when you do discover it assuming you serve notice then. BUT - if you are aware and let years go by without defending it, especially letting it become an industry standard without a single word, you very well can loose your claim.

Disclaimer… I'm no lawyer… I just play one on the TV of my mind… :^O
19 posted on 07/23/2002 6:17:21 AM PDT by DB
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To: ShadowAce
I read a while back that PNG may be a better format than JPEG, as far as compression and quality. Is that true?
20 posted on 07/23/2002 6:22:54 AM PDT by historian1944
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