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NYT ed: D-Day for Colin Powell
The New York Times ^ | 07/28/2002 | editorial board

Posted on 07/27/2002 9:28:24 PM PDT by Pokey78

It wouldn't be surprising if Colin Powell were daydreaming about the clout once exercised by secretaries of state like John Foster Dulles and Henry Kissinger, men whose sway over American foreign policy was largely uncontested. Mr. Powell has been bested on a number of important issues in recent months by more conservative and ideological figures in the Bush administration. Like the good soldier and loyal adviser that he is, Mr. Powell has swallowed the defeats, defended the party line and turned to the next crisis. The administration, and the nation, would be better served if Mr. Powell's views prevailed more often. The time has come when he should not be so accommodating. He might even throw a tantrum or two.

Mr. Powell is not the first secretary of state to skirmish with other members of the national security team, whether at the Pentagon or in the White House. Richard Nixon's first secretary of state, William Rogers, was steamrollered by Mr. Kissinger, the national security adviser who eventually became secretary of state himself. Cyrus Vance fought a succession of policy battles in the Carter administration with Zbigniew Brzezinski, the national security adviser. Mr. Vance resigned in protest over the botched attempt to use military force to rescue the United States Embassy hostages in Iran. During the Reagan years, George Shultz wrestled constantly with Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger over how to handle the Soviet Union.

The sharks circling around Mr. Powell include Vice President Dick Cheney; Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz; and the White House political director, Karl Rove. Mr. Rove is especially eager to bend policy to placate the Republican right.

Mr. Powell's most recent setback was last week's decision to cut off American financing for the United Nations Population Fund over China's compulsory abortion policies. Earlier, the White House reversed policies publicly advocated by Mr. Powell on issues ranging from North Korea to Iran to strategies for renewing Mideast peace negotiations.

There have been a few important victories for Mr. Powell, too, including the decision to make this year's nuclear reduction agreement with Russia a formal international treaty and a muting of the administration's early belligerence toward China.

Mr. Powell has some powerful advantages in internal debates that he ought not to be shy about using. The president needs him more than he needs the president. Mr. Powell is a Washington heavyweight — a former national security adviser, four-star Army general and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and one of the architects of victory in the Persian Gulf war. Mr. Bush, a foreign-policy welterweight when he assumed the presidency, would be instantly diminished at home and abroad if Mr. Powell were no longer at his side. Reagan aides used to mock Mr. Shultz for his repeated threats to resign, but in the end he won the arguments over Soviet policy by confronting his opponents and persistently lobbying Mr. Reagan for a more constructive approach toward Moscow.

The Bush foreign policy agenda is filled with issues that Mr. Powell is ideally suited to address, including the ongoing war against terrorism, efforts to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons and the pending decision about how to deal with Saddam Hussein. Mr. Bush will need Mr. Powell's help if he hopes to secure international support for a confrontation with Iraq.

If Mr. Powell were on a winning streak, his conciliatory style might look more appealing. The measure of success for secretaries of state is not whether they loyally follow the lead of the president, but whether they guide foreign policy in directions that advance American interests abroad. Mr. Powell has the convictions and seasoning to be a great secretary of state, but he will not achieve that stature if he fails to stand his ground.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: powellwatch
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Oh, how they love him so!
1 posted on 07/27/2002 9:28:24 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
For once why can't the United States have a State Department that represents American interests instead appeasing the the rest of the world in hopes of being seen as "progressive."
2 posted on 07/27/2002 9:34:39 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Pokey78
...in the end he won the arguments over Soviet policy by confronting his opponents and persistently lobbying Mr. Reagan for a more constructive approach toward Moscow.

These NYT dudes aren't just living on another planet, they're in a completely alternate dimension.

3 posted on 07/27/2002 9:37:49 PM PDT by jpl
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To: Pokey78
Yup Little mac, loser of Iraq, loser of Somalia, the one battle he did win was Haiti, and he Jimmy the rabbit with him.

Obviously nobody at the NYT ever served under little mac when he was leading troops.

I sometimes wonder if the NYT ever looks at a man's record, of course not, stupid me, it would ruin there preconceived notions about life and war.

4 posted on 07/27/2002 9:37:55 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: Pokey78
"Mr. Rove is especially eager to bend policy to placate the Republican right."

Rove does just the opposite!

This piece of garbage should have had a barf allert attached to the title.

5 posted on 07/27/2002 9:39:12 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Pokey78
 The administration, and the nation, would be better
served if Mr. Powell's views prevailed more often.

The NYT may have a knee-jerk problem.  They
were pro-Israel until the Wars of Arab Repulsion
moved Israel from underdog to regional power.
Now that the Palestinians are underdogs, the NYT
forces its coverage into anti-Israel mode.

Is can be no surprise that they view Powell's
pro-Arab tilt to be just what the nation and
admnistration need.  Contrarionism trumps
terrorism at the grey lady.

As to where we would be if Powell's
views prevailed, see below for a real
State Dept policy.
___________________________
 

State Department Spokesman Richard Boucher explains why
blowing up Israelis different than blowing up Americans

DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

Richard Boucher, Spokesman

Washington, DC; September 27, 2001

...

QUESTION: To what extent does this campaign -- as you constantly review your Middle East policy, what -- how much influence does this campaign against terrorism have in that? What's the input? How does it weigh in here? See what I mean?

MR. BOUCHER: No, I don't.

QUESTION: It's obviously a factor --

MR. BOUCHER: We have talked about this on and off over the last few days. We recognize that there is an influence. Some have said it affects the atmosphere, the Palestinian/Israeli issues affect the atmosphere of cooperation. But, essentially, there are, on some planes, two different things. One is that there are violent people trying to destroy societies, ours, many others in the world. The world recognizes that and we are going to stop those people.

On the other hand, there are issues and violence and political issues that need to be resolved in the Middle East, Israelis and Palestinians. But we all recognize that the path to solve those is through negotiation and that we have devoted enormous efforts to getting back to that path of negotiation.

And we have called on the parties to do everything they can, particularly in the present circumstance, to make that possible.

I guess that's about as close as I can come to the kind of sophisticated analysis I'm sure you will want to do on your own. But they are clearly issues that are different, not only in geography but also, to some extent, in their nature.

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IMRA - Independent Media Review and Analysis
Website: www.imra.org.il

6 posted on 07/27/2002 9:40:44 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Pokey78
The New York Times has forgotten that Powell isn't President, and that Powell marches to the orders that President Bush gives out. As does the rest of the people in the Bush administration.
7 posted on 07/27/2002 9:41:11 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Pokey78
Not one NYT Editorial Writer had the courage to put it's name to this spew of C&#p.


8 posted on 07/27/2002 9:53:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: *Powell_Watch
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9 posted on 07/27/2002 9:54:16 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Pokey78
"Mr. Rove is especially eager to bend policy to placate the Republican right."

"Anxious to placate..."? We must be missing something.
10 posted on 07/27/2002 9:56:14 PM PDT by Let's Roll
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To: Pokey78
I'm curious. Why doesn't someone from the New York Times throw their hat in the ring in 2004? These people are experts on everything from foreign policy to finance. Heck...they can read minds and tell you what everybody's gonna do before they do it! And no matter who said what...they tell you what they REALLY meant by it.

THE ENTIRE EDITORIAL BOARD OF THE NEW YORK TIMES FOR PRESIDENT!! Yeah, instead of one lonely man at the top, maybe we should try having a group presidency. Delivering the news while running the country. But then....they're already doing that aren't they?

11 posted on 07/27/2002 9:58:27 PM PDT by JessicaDragonet
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To: Pokey78
The president needs him more than he needs the president.

Ummm... is this ever true?

12 posted on 07/27/2002 9:59:21 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: Pokey78
In Washington, DC, SOS Colin Powell, right, takes precious time from
his continual determined fighting for Arabs, Palestinians and Islamic countries,
including having his Department continue to give US visas
to declared terrorists who have murdered Americans,
to speak with the Afghan Foreign Minister Abdullah.

Commentary: In my opinion, he should be conservative, pro-US, ... or resign.

13 posted on 07/27/2002 10:01:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: dalereed
You don't think Rove is so hard-core conservative he'd make FReepers blush?
14 posted on 07/27/2002 10:03:34 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: Pokey78
I stopped at the first paragraph..

Someone needs to point out to this doofus that we never elected Powell. We did however elect Dick Chency and George Bush.

George Bush as President appointed Powell Secretary of State. He didn't place a purple robe on him and annoint him head bastard and dictator for life, he appointed him as a manager and an ambassador to do the bidding of the Bush administration abroad as the President sees fit.

If the unelected Powell stomps his feet and has a hissy then Dubya is completely justified in firing him and replacing him with another manager and ambasador who will do the job the way Dubya, and by extention the people of the United States of America want it to be done.

Period.

15 posted on 07/27/2002 10:10:10 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Pokey78
How thoughtful of the NYT to try to put a wedge between the President and his Secretary of State.

These people are so crass - pathetic. If you can't bring them down, try to cause chaos and strife. What a great bunch of guys/sarcasm.
16 posted on 07/27/2002 10:56:53 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt

What's more incredible is that this is supposed to be considered a bad thing.

I actually view it as a plus for Dubya if it's true.

Reign in State, make them do the job the way Dubya wants it done and then the Administration can either collect the kudos or take the lumps.

That's the way it's supposed to work anyhow. Where this idea of the Sec State being a loose cannon free to do as he see's fit comes from is beyond me.

17 posted on 07/27/2002 11:00:28 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Pokey78
What I find interesting is that this is exactly the same technique the liberal media used on McCain when he first started running for President. They flattered McCain, and wrote stories about how McCain's former conservative positions had merely been a facade to placate his Republican constituency. Then they praised McCain extravagantly whenever he repudiated a previous position in favor of the liberal orthodoxy. McCain was such an egotistical publicity hound that it worked; he aligned himself with the liberal media and in turn got tons of fauning ink.

The NY Times is signalling to Powell that he will enjoy similar rapturous media support if he publically distances himself from Bush. His previous toeing of the Administration's foreign policy line will be forgiven as Powell's way of trying to change things from within. And if he has to resign, the liberal media will annoint him as a hero for his brave and principled action.

While I am not a fan of Powell, I do give him much higher marks for integrity than I gave McCain. I don't think Powell will be sucked in quite so easily. But more than that, the reality is that Powell will end up looking like the goat rather than the hero if he resigns or openly disputes Bush. That's because the U.S. will be invading Iraq in the not-too-distant future, and Powell knows that better than anyone. If he resigned prior to the war, he'd look like a cowardly idiot once Saddam was disposed of. And if he stayed on as Secretary of State through a successful military campaign to achieve a "regime change", why would he ever resign instead of taking credit for his contribution to that effort?

Conclusion: the New York Times is spitting in the wind, trying to convince the wind that it would be heroic to change directions.

18 posted on 07/27/2002 11:02:51 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: Pokey78
I went straight to the comments and skipped the editorial . I'm only surprised at how many Freepers take a NYT editorial seriously.
19 posted on 07/27/2002 11:29:44 PM PDT by Brasil
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To: Jhoffa_
"Reign in State, make them do the job the way Dubya wants it done and then the Administration can either collect the kudos or take the lumps"

You are absolutely 100% right on!!

And ... from what I have seen and heard, this has happened several times. Powell would go on the record for something, and a few days later he would change his mind. I KNEW GW had made him change his mind back to what the White House wanted. So, you're right - and GW has done exactly that.
20 posted on 07/27/2002 11:35:44 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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