Liberals can't have it both ways on abortion

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, August 30, 2002 | Jon Dougherty

[JohnHuang2]

Friday, August 30, 2002

Quote of the Day by marron

[Sacajaweau]

How does one equate FREEDOM with the right to kill babies in the womb; Freedom of the Press with the right to spread porn profusely via the web, TV etc.; Freedom with the right of homosexuals to solicite our children and even more ridiculous, to give credence to those homosexual relationships as "marriage".

We've gotten way off base and I hope the pendulum takes a swing back towards morality and goodness and some "real" conscience of the acts we have permitted under the guise of Freedom.

Sac

[RightWinger]

They can't tout a Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion then ignore a reversal that outlaws it.

Sure they can . . . and they will.

[Fearless Flyers]

I no longer except that there is a pro-choice movement. I break it down to anti-life vs pro-life.

The task at hand is to convince authors and reporters to recognize this.

This may seem trivial to many, but words do make a difference, as any academia will tell you. That is part of the reason the leftist movement has been so successful in America

[The Man]

The author of this article has no idea what he is talking about.

If the Supreme Court does reverse Roe v. Wade totally as it should (it has already reversed it in part), the most likely outcome will be that the decision to outlaw or not outlaw abortion will fall back to the states, which is where it was and constitutionally should be in the first place.

All you have to do is listen to the statements of the various anti-Roe Justices on the Supreme Court right now to know this.

[Khepera]

ping

[NukeMan]

A little off-topic here, but this again illustrates why it is important to regard certain rights as 'inalienable' (God-given). If government can grant rights it can also take them away.

[YankeeReb]

Oddly enough, you'd think liberals would support a reversal. After all, don't they generally oppose putting murderers to death? Why is the concept of saving unborn babies – the most helpless and voiceless in our society – from a death sentence too hard for them to grasp?

This statement assumes liberals actually CARE about the rights of the innocent. Every action they take , every cause they espouse shows this is not the case. Liberals only care about creating a society totally free of personal responsibility. You commit a murder...No death penalty. You have an unwanted pregnancy...just get an abortion. At heart liberals are hedonists with a strong elitist streak.

[John O]

If the Supreme Court does reverse Roe v. Wade totally as it should (it has already reversed it in part), the most likely outcome will be that the decision to outlaw or not outlaw abortion will fall back to the states, which is where it was and constitutionally should be in the first place.

It very much depends on how they do it. If they recognize officially that life begins at conception then abortion will be legally defined as murder in all US states and territories. End of abortion.

God Save America (Please)

[GovernmentShrinker]

You can "regard" all you like, but as long as the government, by virtue of widespread support from the people, retains the ability to prevent you from exercising rights which you regard as "inalienable", your regarding is pretty meaningless.

[ArGee]

Why is the concept of saving unborn babies ? the most helpless and voiceless in our society ? from a death sentence too hard for them to grasp?

If liberals really cared about the little guy this would be a valid question. However, liberals only care about power. And abortion is power. It's power of men over women, who otherwise might ask for a relationship before having sex. And it's power of both over the unborn.

Shalom.

[Lorianne]

Excellent article. Excellent points.

Let the hypocrisy begin.

[Sacajaweau]

Reversing Roe vs Wade:

I think the Supreme Court can conclude that the Constitution did in no way intend to give women the FREEDOM to Kill their unborn child and make it binding throughout the land.

The penalty for engaging in such an act would fall to each State.

The Men who created the Constitution never dreamed that the "gentle sex" would become murderers of their own flesh and blood.Murder is always wrong except in self-defense.

Sac

[Right To Life]

How does one equate FREEDOM with the right to kill babies in the womb...

Freedom to be a conscienceless trollop...

[Right To Life]

The penalty for engaging in such an act would fall to each State.

What penalties would you recommend?

Let the hypocrisy begin.

What hypocrisy, as you define the word, are you expecting?

[Right To Life]

However, liberals only care about power.

True.

And abortion is power.

True.

It's power of men over women, who otherwise might ask for a relationship before having sex.

False. Men have no legal power to coerce abortion; no man can legally disclaim financial obligations for a non-aborted infant.

And it's power of both over the unborn.

False again. Abortion is something that women only can authorize legally...it is something that the women who "choose" it do to babies and to the men who father those babies. The culpability could not be more clear. The refusal of too many conservatives to openly identify that cuplability is the reason abortion persists.

The "blame the guy" motif is just not in concert with legal realities.

No man. not a single one, can authorize an abortion in America.

[Right To Life]

If they recognize officially that life begins at conception then abortion will be legally defined as murder in all US states and territories. End of abortion.

Technically possible, but pro-life justices tend to oppose legislating from the bench. So realistically, the best case is to have the USSC turn the issue completely back to the states.

[Right To Life]

The Men who created the Constitution never dreamed that the "gentle sex" would become murderers of their own flesh and blood.Murder is always wrong except in self-defense.

Women are not virtuous by virtue of being women. Some are, some aren't. Some men are, some aren't. Mythologizing one sex over the other is as bad as conflating character and race.

[Right To Life]

Liberals only care about creating a society totally free of personal responsibility.

For their protected groups.

You commit a murder...No death penalty. You have an unwanted pregnancy...just get an abortion. At heart liberals are hedonists with a strong elitist streak.

Indeed.

[Right To Life]

If the Supreme Court does reverse Roe v. Wade totally as it should (it has already reversed it in part)

On what do you base the parenthetical contention reprised above?