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To: UbIwerks; Skooz; TomB
Five bucks says Lisa Tinker is gay herself, and a letter-writer for GLAAD.

Tinker's letter trashing Reisman's work as regurgitated Paul Cameron doesn't square with Reisman's footnoted papers on e.g. monster pederast-sadomasochist Alfred Kinsey.


Here's Reisman on Kinsey's research methods:

http://www.leaderu.com/jhs/reisman.html

Reisman makes several statements in her article just linked to the effect that she has had a tough time from the American Psychiatric Association, which was rolled by the gay community working through gay psychiatrists in 1973. How that happened is described in this linked 1998 JAMA article about the APA's 25th-anniversary retrospective festivities celebrating their dark victory (see esp graf 10):

http://jama.ama-assn.org/issues/v280n6/ffull/jmn0812-1.html

Here is the American Psychiatric Association's own lookback article; notice in particular the pointed reference to "gay-affirmative psychiatry". Doesn't that sound like something called "outreach"?

http://www.psych.org/pnews/98-07-17/dsm.html

By the way, there are no fewer than three "APA" organizations in the psychological sciences: The American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, and the American Psychoanalytical Association. All have websites. Good luck telling them apart.

The gay APA assault team relied on a study by Evelyn Hooker, described in a hostile article here:

http://members.aol.com/poesgirl/hooker.htm

Now that you know what gay-friendly science has to say about the storming of the APA, here is another account. This article is a Charles Socarides review of a 1999 NARTH reprint of a 1987 article contributed to the book "Scientific Controversies: Case Studies" [shortened title] by Irving Bieber, who was a dissenting participant in the 1973 debate and who had, when APA fell, previously completed a longitudinal study of "reparative therapy" rates among homosexuals during the 1950's and 1960's. Bieber's work had suggested psychological components to homosexuality that, in about 25% of his study patients, had allowed him to show progress in "curing" homosexuality through psychotherapy.

http://www.narth.com/docs/normalization.html

Meanwhile, after the fall of APA and DSM-II, numbers of psychiatrists and psychologists of the older generation, who haven't been purged and purified in school by the PC Police, have continued to agree with Bieber on a psychological component to homosexuality. There used to be a survey of the opinions of mental-health professionals concerning the etiology of homosexuality here:

http://www.taasa.org/library/gay_lesbian/gay_lesbian__male.htm

but surprise, surprise, it's been taken down. Just coincidentally, of course, it showed that the New Truth about "gay essentialism" (i.e., if you're gay, you're gay) had achieved a whole lot less acceptance in the scientific community than the noisy, PC committees of APA would like us to know about.

NARTH scientists attack the gay essentialists in a NARTH article here:

http://www.narth.com/docs/innate.html

But while NARTH and Reisman are busy attacking the gay apologists, the gays are busy, too. This article by the hated Paul Cameron, which however is heavily footnoted and reports widely on the work of others, associates higher molestation activity levels with gay molesters:

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html

and they are also up to stuff like this, via GLSEN and public education organizations:

http://www.stevekaneshow.com/glstapes.htm









20 posted on 08/30/2002 7:16:50 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
But but but but......the link posted by madg leads to an anti-Christian hate site which has an article in which an obviously unbiased (uh huh) person named Poppy Dixon with (I am sure) unassailable credentials says bad things about her.

That proves all your links are filled with invalid info and everything Kinsey said is absolute truth. It also proves his "research" methods and findings are beyond reproach. Therefore, Big Brothers and Big Sisters are correct in their assertions and the priests who molested boys are not gay.

Wow, thanks to Poppy Dixon for clearing all that up.

31 posted on 08/30/2002 8:43:29 AM PDT by Skooz
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