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To: Skooz
I know this will shock! everybody here, but I see no reason why the Sheppard and Dirkhising cases should be compared (more than any two, randomly chosen murder cases should be compared).

The contention in the Sheppard case was that he was killed because he was homosexual. That is why the media made a fuss: It was supposedly an example of the virulence of homophobia in our society, etc., etc. Therefore, it makes some sense to compare the Sheppard case to the murder of James Byrd, where the motivation for the killing was apparently the victim's minority status (in Byrd's case, as a black man).

As far as I know, no one has ever claimed that Dirkhising was killed because he was straight. (I don't know that it's ever even been established that he was straight.) Therefore, the Dirkhising case does not serve as a counter-example of the virulence of gays' hatred of heterosexuals, and so is not a useful comparison to the Sheppard case.

In fact, I can't think of any useful comparison to the Sheppard case, i.e., an instance when a couple of gay men beat a straight man to death because he was straight.

Nevertheless, it might make sense to compare the Dirkhising case to the many recent cases in the news where presumably straight men violated, then killed, little girls. In all those situations, the victim was killed in connection with a (twisted) sexual act.

But, of course, if we were to compare the Dirkhising case to the recent rapes/murders of little girls, it wouldn't be as satisfying would it? After all, the ratio of gay rapist/murderers to straight rapist/murderers wouldn't be one-to-one. So that wouldn't serve the "agenda" of the Reismanites.

37 posted on 08/30/2002 10:13:36 AM PDT by Fethiye
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To: Fethiye
Straight murders gay = news. Victim is helpless martyr to the cause of diversity.
Gay murders straight = not news. Victim may have been gay and had it coming.

Gotcha.

I can't think of any useful comparison to the Sheppard case, i.e., an instance when a couple of gay men beat a straight man to death because he was straight.

The motivation of the killers is more important than their actions? Huh?

Who has the agenda?

39 posted on 08/30/2002 10:26:22 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: Fethiye
But, of course, if we were to compare the Dirkhising case to the recent rapes/murders of little girls, it wouldn't be as satisfying would it?

It would be ok with me if you compared the press coverage of Dirkshling with that girl who was abducted from her driveway or with Elizabeth Smart. I hear about those all the time.

Shalom.

45 posted on 08/30/2002 10:59:14 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: Fethiye
It was supposedly an example of the virulence of homophobia in our society, etc., etc.

Let's see. Thousands of articles about Sheppard, but most articles and news media can't even admit that the Catholic Church scandal is almost entirely HOMOSEXUAL. Then they want the Boy Scouts to send out teenage boys with homosexual men into the night. The bias is overwhelming - and frankly, everyone sees through it.

61 posted on 08/30/2002 11:52:40 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Fethiye
After all, the ratio of gay rapist/murderers to straight rapist/murderers wouldn't be one-to-one.

The comparable metric would be the percentage of gay rapists/murderers in the
total gay population
TO
the percentage of straight rapists/murderers in the total
straight population.

Of course, getting reliable numbers might be a bit of a challenge, given all
the vagaries of criminal statistics as well as "self-reporting" of orientation.
126 posted on 09/01/2002 10:58:38 AM PDT by VOA
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