Earth's magnetic field 'boosts gravity'

New Scientist ^ | 09:20 22 September 02 | Michael Brooks

[VadeRetro]

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Hidden extra dimensions are causing measurements of the strength of gravity at different locations on Earth to be affected by the planet's magnetic field, French researchers say.

This is a controversial claim because no one has ever provided experimental evidence to support either the existence of extra dimensions or any interaction between gravity and electromagnetism. But lab measurements of Newton's gravitational constant G suggest that both are real.

Newton's constant, which describes the strength of the gravitational pull that bodies exert on each other, is the most poorly determined of the constants of nature. The two most accurate measurements have experimental errors of 1 part in 10,000, yet their values differ by 10 times that amount. So physicists are left with no idea of its absolute value.

Now Jean-Paul Mbelek and Marc Lachieze-Ray of the French Atomic Energy Commission near Paris say they can resolve the contradiction by taking into account the location of the labs where the experiments were carried out.

The pair suggest that electromagnetism and gravity influence one another enough for gravity's pull to be noticeably affected by the Earth's magnetic field.

String theory

Their work is based on theories such as string theory that try to unify all the forces, including electromagnetism and gravity, by invoking the existence of several extra spatial dimensions.

In a paper submitted to Classical and Quantum Gravity and presented at a meeting of the European Astronomical Society in Porto, Portugal, the researchers calculated the values they would expect G to have at different locations around the world. They say it should be greater where the Earth's magnetic field is stronger, with the highest measurements at the north and south magnetic poles.

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[f.Christian]

Geologic column---dating??

Why does it look like it does(grand canyon)?

"The reason that it looks the way does is due to the sequence in which the events that help to create it happened. We already know that there was once a very tall chain of mountains in the area that occupied the Grand Canyon. These mountains were, over many millions of years, eventually eroded away to form a level plain. Fluctuations in climate then caused the oceans to move in over successive periods and each time a new rock layer was deposited. The rock layers were deposited one on top of the other and sometimes there were long periods in between in which some of the upper layers were eroded away, sometimes completely."

We already know that there was once a very tall chain of mountains in the area that occupied the Grand Canyon. These mountains were, over many millions of years, eventually eroded away to form a level plain.

That is called science..."we already know"!

Campfire stories! Junk!!

Evolution...tall tales---big lies(no comprehension)!

But the effect is permanent---zombie brains---religion!

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[longshadow]

Wonder what ol' Ted would've made of this one.

Further proof that Saturn is STILL hovering over the North Pole?

[f.Christian]

Petroleum - the archetypal fossil fuel - couldn't have formed from the remains of dead animals and plants, claim US and Russian researchers1. They argue that... petroleum---originated from minerals at extreme temperatures and pressures."

Geologic columns...what about the massive canyon on mars---no water!

The size---circumference of the Earth has gotten smaller(although at certain pts. it could have been changing/variable). During collapse large ridges---mountains would protrude upwards! Land wouldn't form evenly...continents would remain at higher levels above water level then plates would dry out---shrink producing canyons--basins--ravines...then cooled and hot sediments would form as the shrinking would continue...producing more mountains/hills--'volcanoes'---to fill the receding gaps!

At the Grand Canyon older sedimentary levels are at the top and the fresher/newer ones below...those straight up 'buttes' came out of hole--soft spots in the plates like cake decorations---Ayres Rock like a bubble in a blown tire.

All that erosion crap old age of the Earth is hooie-dooie!

There is not enough dust on the moon to support an old earth dating system!

[RightWhale]

The two most accurate measurements of G contradict each other.

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It's precision, not accuracy, and the graph is meaningless without mentioning the confidence interval. There is an indeterminant error. Get more data and let someone else do the lab work.

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Right?

[AndrewC]

This sounds like something akin to precision and accuracy conflict. I would suggest team A and team B swap locations, measure, swap equipment, measure, swap locations again, measure, swap equipment again and perform a final measurement. See what drops out.

Screech!!

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|     ,-'       ,'  |  \       _     _       /  |  `-.      `-.             
|   ,'         /    |   `._   /\\   //\   _,'   |     \        `.            
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Splifford the bat says: Always remember:

A mind is a terrible thing to waste; especially on an evolutionist.
Just say no to narcotic drugs, alcohol abuse, and corrupt ideological doctrines.

[AndrewC]

Synchronicity?

[Doctor Stochastic]

You forgot Study Butte Texas. Pronounced Stewdy Bewt but usually getting the expected mispronuncion.

[AndrewC]

A little to early to be tippling.

[AndrewC]

ME TOOOOO!

[RightWhale]

In a paper submitted to Classical and Quantum Gravity and presented at a meeting of the European Astronomical Society in Porto, Portugal, the researchers calculated the values they would expect G to have at different locations around the world.

I subscribe to this journal. They send the entire year once a year in a box, so I will look for this article sometime in the next few months. It's going to be hot if they get published.

[f.Christian]

buttes...creation is going up---evolution is sinking/falling/failing fast!

[RightWhale]

Scientific minds firing their synapses in the correct order.

[PatrickHenry]

Gravitationally fluctuating placemarker.

[Gumlegs]

Sometimes I wonder if there were many big bangs, and there are waves of universes in front of us and behind us, so to speak.

Colleen Moore. Now those were big bangs!

[VadeRetro]

It's precision, not accuracy, and the graph is meaningless without mentioning the confidence interval. There is an indeterminant error.

From the article:

The two most accurate measurements have experimental errors of 1 part in 10,000, yet their values differ by 10 times that amount. So physicists are left with no idea of its absolute value.

The error bars are far smaller than the difference between the most accurate existing measurements. For sure, more data is needed. Two points are not enough.

[Junior]

Synchronicity?

Who?

[f.Christian]

mind molesters!

SPLIFFORDS!

[VadeRetro]

At the Grand Canyon older sedimentary levels are at the top and the fresher/newer ones below

I actually took the time to parse this screech and answer you on it. Your claim is simply false. So here it is again, unmodified. Is it any wonder most of you guys are on ignore?