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Climate Models Get Smudged
Space Daily ^ | 09/30/2002

Posted on 09/30/2002 10:41:08 AM PDT by cogitator

There have been several articles about this new paper on the Web. I chose the one below because it seems to be comprehensive and well-written.

Climate Models Get Smudged
Report Assessing Impact of Soot on Global Warming Could Alter Control Strategies, Place Burden on Developing Nations -- and Create New Uncertainty in Climate Model Predictions

A new study on the role that atmospheric soot particles may play in global warming suggests a new near-term control strategy, introduces a new element of uncertainty in climate models and shifts more responsibility for curbing pollution to developing nations such as China and India.

Published in the September 27 issue of the journal Science, the report -- by researchers from NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies -- suggests that by absorbing sunlight and altering weather patterns, light absorbing carbon-based particles could have nearly as much impact on global warming as carbon dioxide: a greenhouse gas that has long been considered the primary culprit in global warming. The soot particles are produced by diesel engines, cooking fires and other sources.

In a perspectives article published with the NASA Goddard paper, atmospheric researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology describe some of the policy implications of the new findings. Among them:

--- Because black carbon particles have relatively short atmospheric lifetimes, successful control efforts could curb their effects in a matter of months or years. Carbon dioxide remains in the atmosphere for hundreds of years, meaning control efforts couldn't impact global warming for generations.

--- Soot emissions come primarily from developing nations such as India and China. If these emissions do in fact play a large role in global warming, that could shift pressure for environmental control to those nations. Industrialized nations in North America and Europe are responsible for the bulk of carbon dioxide emissions.

--- Efforts to control soot may also bring immediate improvements in human health since the small particles thought to be most active in affecting climate are the same PM 2.5 particles that cause respiratory distress when trapped deep in the lungs.

--- Little is known about the worldwide impact of soot emissions or even how to properly measure them. Significant new research will be needed before the role of black carbon emissions can be reliably assessed.

"The study reported this week in Science really raises some important policy issues regarding soot," said Michael Bergin, an assistant professor in Georgia Tech's School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences and co-author of the perspectives article.

"In the past, researchers have felt that soot didn't really have a significant warming effect. But as we've learned more about the amount of black carbon emitted by countries like China and India, it appears now that soot could have important climatic effects, and that these effects may be almost as much as those of carbon dioxide."

In their perspectives article, Bergin and Professor William Chameides, also in Georgia Tech's School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, point out the differences between black carbon soot and greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide and methane. For instance, soot particles are removed from the atmosphere on time scales of weeks to months, while carbon dioxide lingers for hundreds of years. That could point toward a better near-term control strategy.

"This could be 'low-hanging fruit' in trying to deal with the anthropogenic (human-caused) effects on the climate," Bergin noted. "From a policy standpoint, the payoff for controlling soot could be on the scale of years rather than centuries."

Black carbon creates its warming effect through an entirely different mechanism than greenhouse gases, which act as an insulating blanket to keep heat within the earth's atmosphere. Black carbon absorbs light from the sun, converting that to heat. The effect varies, depending upon what is beneath the carbon particles.

If a light-colored surface lies below the carbon particles, the heating effect is increased as incoming photons heat the particles on their way toward the surface, then heat them again as they reflect off the land or clouds. The particles are also involved in cloud formation which impacts precipitation patterns. Those weather changes, seen in regions of China and India with large soot emissions, may in turn affect the global climate.

"There are a lot of possible atmospheric effects from soot," Bergin said. "We really don't yet understand all the feedback cycles involved."

In fact, researchers are just beginning to learn about black carbon soot -- and even to agree on what it is. Formed by the incomplete combustion from diesel engines, cooking fires and coal burning, black carbon can take different forms.

Depending on the specifics of the combustion process, soot can take many different forms from spherical particles to chain agglomerates.

"The nature of the particles and how they absorb light could be different," Bergin explained. "So one gram of soot from one part of the world could be different from a gram of soot from another part of the world. We are really at the beginning of trying to understand the influences of soot on climate. Right now, there is a great deal of uncertainty in any estimate of the climatological impact of soot."

A key uncertainty is the amount of soot going into the atmosphere. Localized studies in China and India, where crops wastes are burned for heating and cooking, show very high levels. In developed nations, elevated soot levels are found in urban areas -- which have often been excluded from climate studies to avoid confusing global climate change with the local "urban heat island" effect.

Because nations such as China and India produce so much black carbon, a new focus on this pollutant could shift control responsibility to the developing nations.

Controlling soot emissions would include developing more efficient combustion techniques, both for biomass burning and diesel engines, Bergin added.

The Science report calls into question the accuracy of global climate change models, which have not considered the effects of black carbon.

"This creates some opportunities for climate modelers to revise their approaches and to add a potentially important anthropogenic climate forcing agent to their models," said Bergin. "We now have an opportunity to include more of the important anthropogenic effects. It could be that there are other feedback cycles in the global climate system that we don't understand."

Controlling soot could have an impact broader than global climate change. The tiny particles that appear to be most active in absorbing radiation are of the size implicated in causing human health effects because they can lodge deeply in the lungs.

"These health impacts could make it politically much easier for policy-makers to enact the kinds of controls needed," said Bergin. "The control strategy could provide a double-whammy by increasing the health of both human beings and the environment."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: climate; enviralists; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; modeling; soot
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This is part of a continuing effort by James Hansen and his colleagues at the Goddard Institute of Space Studies to get policy makers to recognize the importance of black soot pollution. Controlling black soot pollution could have much more impact on global warming than controlling CO2 emissions, and as the article notes, it would also likely have direct and indirect health benefits. (By indirect I mean that if black soot is causing changes in precipitation patterns, floods and droughts also affect the health of the people living in those regions.)
1 posted on 09/30/2002 10:41:08 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
BUMP
2 posted on 09/30/2002 10:56:30 AM PDT by RippleFire
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To: cogitator
(I'll caveat the following by pointing out that the word may is used an awful lot in the above)

Where (in terms of the different layers of the atmosphere) does this black soot settle? In other words, is it a lower layer phenomenon or upper layer? It would be interesting in light of the basic problem with the current models: Absence of upper level warming predicted to precede lower level warming.

This would also assume that the stuff really does absorb extra infrared (in other words more than the total which would be absorbed through other processes)

3 posted on 09/30/2002 11:02:18 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: cogitator
Cogitator, I want to thank you for these global warming updates, and for your open mind on the phenomena, its cause, or lack thereof. I know the mood on FR is to tend to deny it wholeheartedly, but I believe it _is_ something that should be studied.

Thanks again.

4 posted on 09/30/2002 11:03:30 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: cogitator
Controlling black soot pollution could have much more impact on global warming than controlling CO2 emissions, and as the article notes, it would also likely have direct and indirect health benefits.

Perhaps, but it won't enable self-anointed smart, caring "environmentalist" people to take money away from prosperous Western countries and give it to themselves and Third World dictators while they pat themselves on the back. So it's a non-starter.

5 posted on 09/30/2002 11:04:41 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: cogitator
GLOBAL WARMING CAUSES GLOBAL COOLING!
6 posted on 09/30/2002 11:06:30 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Paradox
What most people on FR have a problem with is the global warming fear mongering. This includes the politicians' and media's potrayal of the "facts" of global warming and the typical predictions of worst case catastrophic scenarios.

The basic facts are (a)short term warming coming out of a little ice age which was preceded by a period of warming much greater than the current levels, (b)long term return to serious ice ages, (c) absolute non-compliance of observed warming trends with current models, (d) lots of fear mongering.

7 posted on 09/30/2002 11:10:56 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Paradox
I should have added an addendum to the first fact (mild short term warming of surface temperature). Increased productivity and living standards due to said warming.
8 posted on 09/30/2002 11:13:19 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: mc5cents
The problem isn't that the Earth's temperature is rising (it seems to be, by most estimates.) The problem isn't that the models are flawed (they are.) The problem is that political things like the Koyoto Treaty do nothing to solve any problems created by climate change.
9 posted on 09/30/2002 11:15:45 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Definitely lower layers in the atmosphere. But in terms
of the difference between the lower troposphere and surface
warming issue, it hasn't been mentioned as a factor.
10 posted on 09/30/2002 11:21:22 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: Paradox
I know the mood on FR is to tend to deny it wholeheartedly, but I believe it _is_ something that should be studied.

Well, even the Bush Administration believe it is something that should be studied. So do I. But I also believe there are more pressing environmental issues, and that the focus on the global warming "is so, is not" distracts from those pressing environmental issues.

11 posted on 09/30/2002 11:23:42 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: Doctor Stochastic
The problem is that political things like the Koyoto Treaty do nothing to solve any problems created by climate change.

And furthermore, they make it look like "concerned nations" are actually trying to do something.

12 posted on 09/30/2002 11:24:50 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
The basic facts are (a)short term warming coming out of a little ice age which was preceded by a period of warming much greater than the current levels, (b)long term return to serious ice ages, (c) absolute non-compliance of observed warming trends with current models, (d) lots of fear mongering.

A couple of other basic facts: Humans are adding gases to the atmosphere that affect Earth's radiation budget at an unprecedented rate (which makes modeling the effects of such additions very uncertain), and the Earth's climate has warmed by about 0.6 degrees C in the past century, with some observable effects on climate and ecological systems.

13 posted on 09/30/2002 11:27:46 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
Ban the scooters in Europe. heh heh
14 posted on 09/30/2002 11:29:39 AM PDT by TC Rider
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To: *Enviralists; *Global Warming Hoax; madfly; Ernest_at_the_Beach
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15 posted on 09/30/2002 11:31:39 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: cogitator
In fact, anyone who's seen the HORRID air pollution of China's cities knows that capping smokestack emissions and reducing vehicle emissions does way more to cure pollution problems than this totally silly notion of global warming.

I mean, take a look at the Los Angeles Basin. Up until the late 1980's, they used to have smog so intense it was as dense as fog--and this caused no end of respiratory problems. Once industry was forced to clean up smokestack emissions and the majority of automobiles got modern emission control systems, in 2002 Los Angeles rarely experiences Stage II smog alerts, and there are many more days from Los Angeles you could actually see Mount Baldy from downtown Los Angeles.

Our auto emission controls have gotten so good that the air going into the intake system of the car is in many cases worse than the exhaust coming out of the exhaust pipe.

16 posted on 09/30/2002 11:32:55 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: cogitator
Uuuuuh. Don't those burning forests that the enviros love so much put just a little bit of soot into the air?
17 posted on 09/30/2002 11:54:02 AM PDT by fella
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To: fella
And burning dung...
18 posted on 09/30/2002 12:00:13 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: cogitator
"A couple of other basic facts: Humans are adding gases to the atmosphere that affect Earth's radiation budget at an unprecedented rate (which makes modeling the effects of such additions very uncertain), and the Earth's climate has warmed by about 0.6 degrees C in the past century, with some observable effects on climate and ecological systems."

Unprecedented? This implies that we know what rates of emission occured in all previous eras and that those emission rates were all less than today's rate. We don't and can't know that sort of thing, since the means for accurately extrapolating such data are unavailable. We can only theorize.

The claim that the earth's climate has warmed 0.6 degrees C in that past century is absurd, cogitator. To qualify as scientific, the methods used to measure climate temperature in 1902 would have had to be the same as those used today (a clear "apples and oranges" problem). Either that, or the method for extrapolating that information would have to be far more reliable than it actually is. The problems inherent in making such a measurement of "overall climate temperature" are daunting, to say the least -- starting with basic definitions.

To posit "observable effects" of this undemonstrated "climate warming" suggests that we have established a cause for those effects. But nobody has, at least, not scientifically.

Far from being "basic facts," it's all supposition. And this is the basis on which the globaloney spouters want to dismantle our economy.

19 posted on 09/30/2002 12:11:43 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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(By indirect I mean that if black soot is causing changes in precipitation patterns, floods and droughts also affect the health of the people living in those regions.)

It's also worth asking what creates soot. In many 3rd world places, it's burning wood. So you've got soot, and you've also got deforestation, which leads to flooding, etc....

Even so, however, I think the biggest contributor is still Mr. Sun.

20 posted on 09/30/2002 12:16:28 PM PDT by r9etb
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