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House tables gun measure amid D.C.-area shooting spree
Charleston WV Daily Mail ^ | 16 Oct 02 | Karin Fischer

Posted on 10/16/2002 9:07:27 AM PDT by white trash redneck

WASHINGTON -- A measure that would shield gun manufacturers and dealers from lawsuits related to criminal gun violence has been tabled by House leaders amid the recent sniper shooting spree.

The bill is co-sponsored by all three members of West Virginia's House delegation.

Just two weeks ago, the bill appeared to have substantial momentum, passing out of committee and scheduled for a vote on the House floor. Then came the series of one-shot killings in Washington's suburbs and a decision that, with the sniper still at large, the debate could be "too emotional, too passionate."

The bill's primary sponsor, Florida Republican Cliff Stearns, told Congressional Quarterly, a Capitol Hill journal, a vote was postponed indefinitely. "Perception," was Stearns' explanation.

But the rash of shootings at suburban strip malls and off-ramp gas stations has not shaken the support of West Virginia lawmakers, although they decry the violence.

"It goes to a fairness issue," said Republican Shelley Moore Capito, one of 231 co-sponsors of the House bill. "If a gun is used in the perpetration of a crime, is it fair to have legal ramifications on a gunmaker if everything has been done on the up-and-up?"

Rep. Nick Joe Rahall, D-W.Va., agrees, "Liability ought to be placed on the person responsible for the crime."

But opponents of the measure say gunmakers and dealers do share the responsibility. "If you're a gun dealer and you sell 150 Saturday night specials to an individual purchaser who pays in cash, you should know there are foreseeable consequences to your action," said Jonathan Lowy, a senior attorney with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

The bill would give gunmakers and dealers special rights and "shut the courthouse door" to victims and their families, he said.

The legislation would bar civil lawsuits in federal or state courts for harm caused by the criminal misuse of a firearm. There are some exceptions, such as when injuries are caused by a manufacturing or design defect.

On its Web site, the National Rifle Association continues to call progress on the bill "promising." Officials from the organization could not be reached for comment.

But with a sniper terrorizing the Washington suburbs, House Republicans have put a hold, at least temporarily, on the bill.

Capito said recent events haven't changed her mind on gun issues, but have "reinforced the idea that there's this paralysis that occurs from the possibility of random acts of violence."

The bill has a Senate companion, which is unlikely to move out of committee. Neither West Virginia senator is among the 43 co-sponsors.

Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., said the bill isn't a gun control measure. "It has much more to do with protecting the financial interests of the gun industry rather than gun control," he said.

Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said he supports gun owners' rights but believes the government has the "responsibility to protect innocent citizens, especially children, from illegal guns used by violent criminals."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; cliffstearns; guncontrol; liabilityshield
An unfortunate example of the gun controllers getting some traction from the DC sniper.
1 posted on 10/16/2002 9:07:27 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: white trash redneck
With Republicans like this we don't need enemies.
2 posted on 10/16/2002 9:08:27 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
With Republicans like this we don't need enemies.

True!

3 posted on 10/16/2002 9:15:20 AM PDT by GirlNextDoor
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To: *bang_list

4 posted on 10/16/2002 9:16:45 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: white trash redneck
At least one rifle in this shooting spree is said to be an AK-74. Sue Kalishnikoff.
5 posted on 10/16/2002 9:16:51 AM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: goldstategop
Stearns has been pretty good on 2A issues over the years. He sponsored this bill, and a few years back he put together a nationwide CCW bill. I'm a little disappointed in him today.
6 posted on 10/16/2002 9:17:36 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: goldstategop
Truely gutless! Blackbird.
7 posted on 10/16/2002 9:27:18 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: goldstategop
Well Said
8 posted on 10/16/2002 9:29:35 AM PDT by Fiddlstix
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To: Mike Darancette
AK-74

Those are illegal - for civiians, at least, aren't they?

I would think this would point out the failure of gun control laws. They don't work!

9 posted on 10/16/2002 9:35:52 AM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: Mike Darancette
Why sue Kalashnikov? His product seems to be working quite effectively!
10 posted on 10/16/2002 9:46:51 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: white trash redneck

Lets face it, guns are real currency for a good people needing protection

Yet these b@stards will vaunt their own Jihadesque fake currency in the hall of congress!!!!!!!!!!! right after sniper attacks aiming to destroy our economy in the Soviet/terrorism tradition of devaluating good currency and replacing it with the fake currencies of demagogies and the red flag!!! AMERICA WAKE UP! Chose your currencies wisely, do not put all your egss in one basket and demand the jailing of mafya fake currency makers in congress taking your guns and rights of silence and freedom from proselytism away!!!!!!


11 posted on 10/16/2002 11:24:56 AM PDT by lavaroise
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If The Gun Manufacturers can be sued, then why hasn't anyone
sued the Auto Companies for the thousands of DUI victims?
12 posted on 10/16/2002 1:40:07 PM PDT by Delmarksman
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To: Delmarksman
No political gain, and the grabbers have to drive ;-)

The lawsuits aren't designed to compensate, they are weapons to put the manufacturers out of business.

Remember that the whole "gun control" issue has been an incremental attack from day 1. These @$$holes have an endgame, and regardless of whether the memo supposedly obtained from the Brady organization back in the early '90's is genuine or a well crafted hoax, the desired outcome by the groups is identical. Disarm America.

It doesn't matter who the perps are, it doesn't matter if they are proven terrorists. All that is necessary from the grabbers, and their fellow travelers, the news media, is to document EVERY shooting (when it's a crime) and ignore EVERY shooting (when self defense is involved). Most pols are cowards anyway, and live by the public opinion survey. They know that this is a hot issue, and winds up losing both ways, from the Carvillian doctrine of not bringing it up before an election, or a cowardly GOP position of fearing Democratic wrath and possible bad press before an election, the result is the same.

This is all the more reason to apply the simple litmus test to the candidates. Either they support the 2A as written, or they don't get the vote. There is 0 room for compromise in this matter. The stakes are simply too great

Keep the Faith for Freedom : FMCDH!!!!

Greg

13 posted on 10/16/2002 1:51:24 PM PDT by gwmoore
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To: NEWwoman
AK-74

Those are illegal - for civiians, at least, aren't they?

No, just highly regulated. One manufactured after the mid eighties might be illegal, Otherwise you's just have to pay a $200 tax. And that's assuming it was the full auto capable version. The semi auto versions are perfectely legal.

I would think this would point out the failure of gun control laws. They don't work!

It does point out that fact, but you can't use logic on the gun grabbers, they can't think, they can only feel.

14 posted on 10/16/2002 2:51:24 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
Thanks for the info on AK-74. (I think they are illegal in California or they are working on it.)

You're right. You can't use logic on gun grabbers. Nothing is wrong with "feeling" as long as it is held in check with "thinking." Without thinking, you have mob rule.

P.S. As a cat lover, I like your moniker.
15 posted on 10/16/2002 3:07:12 PM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: white trash redneck
But opponents of the measure say gunmakers and dealers do share the responsibility. "If you're a gun dealer and you sell 150 Saturday night specials to an individual purchaser who pays in cash, you should know there are foreseeable consequences to your action," said Jonathan Lowy, a senior attorney with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

Senior Attorney??? That act alone would require a TRUCKLOAD of FFL forms, not to mention the fact that the BUYER would also gain the "responsibility of distribution", not the manufacturer. I'm growing so very tired of this litigation driven offensive, the House failed miserably on this opportunity.

16 posted on 10/16/2002 4:47:48 PM PDT by Gilbo_3
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