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McGreevey expected to support same-sex benefits bill
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Posted on 10/20/2002 5:28:01 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

McGreevey expected to support same-sex benefits bill

Sunday October 20, 2002

NEWARK, N.J. (AP) A bill expected to be introduced this month that would grant legal benefits to same-sex couples is likely to have the backing of Gov. James E. McGreevey.

``Governor McGreevey supports legislation that would provide domestic partner benefits and protections,'' McGreevey spokeswoman Jo Glading told The Sunday Star-Ledger of Newark.

The bill sponsored by Assemblywoman Loretta Weinberg, D-Bergen, would not recognize gay marriages, but would ensure that people living together, including same-sex couples, receive the same legal benefits as married couples.

The measure would require unmarried couples to sign a certificate that states they are committed, intimate partners.

``I think this is another case where the law has to catch up with reality,'' Weinberg said. ``Folks are living together in committed relationships with the opposite or same sex. They should not be left bereft when something happens to one of the couple.''

The bill would guarantee benefits including those involving making medical decisions, inheritance and pensions, and life and health insurance.

Republican state Sen. Gerald Cardinale, who introduced legislation in February to ban same-sex marriages, opposes the new bill.

``What people do privately without sticking it in the public is of much less interest, but once you begin to ask government to sanction it, I think, you are in a different ballpark.''

If the new measure becomes law, New Jersey would be the third state in the country to allow the benefits of marriage to partners living together. California and Vermont are the others.

Introducing the same-sex benefit legislation could make New Jersey a battleground for gay rights. The state is also where a gay rights group filed a lawsuit in June seeking recognition of gay marriages.

The lawsuit was filed in state Superior Court in Hudson County on behalf of seven same-sex couples. The plaintiffs said they expect the case to end up before the state Supreme Court.

McGreevey said at the time the lawsuit was filed that a court decision granting legal recognition to same-sex marriages would not be a good thing for New Jersey.

Laquetta Nelson, the president of the gay organization the Stonewall Democrats, said the group has met with the McGreevey administration since then and expects support from the governor.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
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anything for votes........
1 posted on 10/20/2002 5:28:01 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Egad. More reason to be embarrassed that I live in New Jersey. Already knew McGreedey was low-life slime, but didn't think he'd sink this low.

Am waiting for the scandal over McGreedy's creepy personal life to break -- Curtis Sliwa of WABC radio says it's going to come out after the election.

2 posted on 10/20/2002 5:55:35 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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Private Industry has been doing this for years. The state risks not only losing otherwise qualified individuals but risking a lawsuit that would cost a lot more than the benefits cost.
As long as 1.) I don't have to be around it and 2.) they don't try to tell me it's 'marriage', I really don't care.
A marriage is when a man and a woman form a relationship, for better or worse, together.
Considering gays as being 'married' is an insult to married couples. And every married person out there knows exactly what I mean.
Hell, I could get along with a guy a lot easier than my wife. Marriage is a challenge. Besides the good stuff that brought us our baby, but that's something else altogether.
Getting tired. Turning Shatner. Must. Stop. Typing...
3 posted on 10/20/2002 6:14:32 PM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool
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To: Sub-Driver
I wonder if I could sell my partner benefits. I mean if the value of the benefits are say $500 a month maybe I could find someone who needs insurance coverage and other bennies who is willing to pay 50% of the market value. I could make $250 a month or $3,000 a year. All we have to do is say we are in a committed intimate relationship. Or do you think they will believe an adult son is having a committed intimate relationship with his ailing mother who needs insurance. Or maybe I can help my uninsured sister with hemophilia. Anybody in New Jersey who needs insurance coverage at a discount send me a email after it passes or maybe I will offer it on ebay. McGreevy, your a genius! I luv ya pal, Imagine the possibilities.
4 posted on 10/20/2002 6:46:55 PM PDT by Outrance
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To: Outrance
Since all the traditional marriage rules for family benefits go out the window with this legislation I wonder if they will limit the number of committed intimate relationships you can have at any one time? BTW what does "Committed" and "intimate" mean. If you can't stop this from passing you can at least have a little fun with it.
5 posted on 10/20/2002 6:53:17 PM PDT by Outrance
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To: Sub-Driver
The measure would require unmarried couples to sign a certificate that states they are committed, intimate partners.

No purely platonic same-sex relationships allowed? They must certify that they actually engage in intimate homosexual acts with each other? Is there a frequency of intimate contact requirement? If they lie, if they don't have intimate contact, may they be sued for breach of contract and unjust enrichment?

If they don't engage in homosexual sex for a month do they lose their benefits? Or are they just placed on probation? Must they submit photos or videos on demand to prove they are abiding by the "committed and intimate" requirements?

6 posted on 10/20/2002 6:55:13 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Sub-Driver
The measure would require unmarried couples to sign a certificate that states they are committed, intimate partners.

The next logical step would be for pet "guardians" (owners) to ask for medical benefits for pets that are in committed, intimate relationships.

Why not? Some pets outlast "partners"

7 posted on 10/20/2002 7:12:33 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: Outrance
Now this presents an unusual financial opportunity for several of my divorced friends and I who are single mothers.

We can just admit to having seen each other without makeup, and with unshaven legs and qualify for the intimacy requirement!The savings we would be afforded on insurance, both health and auto, would be justification enough.When we factor in childcare expenses,IRS deductions, legally living in a zoned single family home... man this is a good deal!

Before embarking on this cool new arrangement, I would like to have some clarity on the legal ramifications if her "Allie" gets a better offer than my "Kate".ie a real marriage with a real husband .Do we get to keep the kids we came in with? What about community property?

I think I prefer things the way they are currently set up for "normal" people.Who knows, someday I may be normal again.I am certainly raising my child to strive for a normal adult life which includes a husband and children, if she and her husband want them.I support financial advantages for "normal married couples" if any advantages at all are to be extended.

Otherwise, what would be the governments compelling interest or authority in encouraging sound family lifestyles by certain preferential financial and societal benefits?

8 posted on 10/20/2002 8:32:31 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom
Congrats Jersey voters! You've picked a real winner. Hopefully, your state will go bankrupt just like Oregon is destined to. Someday, people will hopefully wake up to the absolute destructiveness of liberalism.
9 posted on 10/21/2002 4:55:08 AM PDT by noloveforlibs
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To: dyed_in_the_wool
The state risks not only losing otherwise qualified individuals but risking a lawsuit...

The money we would save from losing these "qualified individuals" would buy us Johnnie Cochran's legal services.Considering where these lawsuits would be heard...

10 posted on 10/21/2002 5:47:13 AM PDT by tsomer
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