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1 posted on 11/04/2002 7:42:47 PM PST by Sabertooth
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2 posted on 11/04/2002 7:43:27 PM PST by Sabertooth
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3 posted on 11/04/2002 7:44:35 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
I wonder if Clarence 13X, founder of the "Five Percenter" sect of the Nation of Islam, is known to have had any association with Al-Fuqra. Muhammad's terminology (Word is Bond; Call Me God, etc.) is said to be Five-Percenter in origin.
12 posted on 11/04/2002 8:09:32 PM PST by beckett
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To: Sabertooth
you are the man!
14 posted on 11/04/2002 8:27:02 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Sabertooth
Good investigative work Tooth. This case intrigues me.
15 posted on 11/04/2002 8:29:26 PM PST by WRhine
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Bump and Pong.
16 posted on 11/04/2002 8:33:52 PM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: Sabertooth
Bookmarked for when we get to tell them, "Sabertooth told you this months ago".
17 posted on 11/04/2002 8:36:59 PM PST by abner
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To: Sabertooth
About the best news in the article is that the Islamics are as busy killing each other off as trying to kill us.
20 posted on 11/04/2002 8:49:57 PM PST by American in Israel
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for this post also. The more exposure the better, afterall as far as the American people know, these guys are just a GI Johnny and his stepson gone bad. Terrorists is what they really are.
21 posted on 11/04/2002 8:50:20 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: Sabertooth
The Ahmadiyya sect was founded in the Pakistani Punjab in the late 19th Century. It is a breakaway sect which believes it alone practices true Islam, although it has been declared heretical by mainstream Muslims. It was banned in Pakistan in 1984, and has further distinguished itself in recent years by its willingness to condemn Islamic terror.

The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001.

Ahmadiyya


(äh m d´ y) (KEY) , a contemporary messianic movement founded (1899) by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1839–1908), b. in Qadiyan in the Punjab. His Barahin-i Ahmadiyya, which he began to publish in 1880, was well received by his Islamic community. In 1889, he announced that he had received a divine revelation authorizing him to accept the baya, the allegiance of the faithful; he later also declared himself the Mahdi and the Messiah (masih) (1891), an avatar of Krishna (1904) and the manifestation (buruz) of Muhammad.

His doctrine, incorporating Indian, Sufi, Islamic, and Western elements, attempted to revitalize Islam in the face of the British raj, Protestant Christianity, and resurgent Hinduism. After his death, his followers elected Mawlana Nur ad-Din as his successor.
Nur ad-Din died in 1914, and the community split into two branches. The majority remained in Qadiyan and recognized Ghulam Ahmad as prophet (nabi). The founder’s son, Hadrat Mirza Bashir ad-Din Mahmud Ahmad (1889–1965), was chosen as caliph al-Masih II by this Qadiyani branch, known today as the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam (jamaat-i ahmadiyya).
His half-century of leadership shaped the movement, operating since 1947 out of the city of Rabwah (which they founded and gave a Qur’anically inspired name) in Pakistan and administering a network of schools and hospitals. The other branch, less willing to distinguish itself from mainstream Islam, recognized Ghulam Ahmad as a reformer (mujaddid) and established what came to be known as the ahmadiyya anjuman ishaat-i Islam movement in Lahore, Pakistan. The basic belief held by the Qadiyani community is that it is the sole embodiment of “True Islam.”

Both branches engage in energetic missionary activity in Nigeria, Kenya, Indonesia, and the Indian subcontinent. Orthodox Islam has never accepted Ghulam Ahmad’s visions, and Ahmadis in Pakistan have faced religious and political attacks to the extent that they have been declared apostate and non-Muslim by the country’s religious and political elite.
A 1984 Pakistani government decree banned the use of Islamic forms of worship by Ahmadis. The Ahmadis today number perhaps 10 million, concentrated in Pakistan, with substantial communities in India and Africa and a global proselityzing network. 1
See H. J. Fisher, Ahmadiyyah (1963); S. Lavan, The Ahmadiyyah Movement (1974); Y. Friedman, Prophecy Continuous (1989).
26 posted on 11/04/2002 10:20:06 PM PST by Valin
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BTTT!
38 posted on 11/05/2002 4:23:41 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Sabertooth
There are several news stories from Washington state that include more sniper info:

Police investigating D.C. sniper suspect in police station shoot-up

John Allen Muhammad: A man of many identities

Police tie pair to two crimes in Tacoma

ACCUSED SNIPER NOW PROBED IN TACOMA MURDER

40 posted on 11/05/2002 5:29:49 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Sabertooth; Grampa Dave
Good job Sabertooth

You're right Grampa Dave,the Inquirer reads as if they are reading freerepublic posts.

As Rush says "don't worry members of the media, we'll be right back with more show prep, in a moment" lol

41 posted on 11/05/2002 5:46:22 AM PST by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: Sabertooth
Good research! Thanks.
42 posted on 11/05/2002 7:29:41 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Sabertooth
Wow, great post. Impressive detective work and deductive reasoning. If they were recruited by al Fuqre, that'd fit in perfectly with the profile I did of them before they were caught.

Your ought to publish it. It stands a considerably better chance of being right than the crackpot theories that the mainstream media is throwing at us : 5 Percent, Gulf War Syndrome, anger OVER the Gulf War, terrorizing his ex-wife - the REST of the country was just collateral terror??

Belated BUMP. (can't BELIEVE I didn't see this yesterday)

43 posted on 11/05/2002 7:41:56 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Sabertooth
On the other hand, how does the Ahmadiyya sect fit in? None of the victims were Muslim.
45 posted on 11/05/2002 7:55:28 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Sabertooth
I believe there was also a lunar eclipse about that time.
51 posted on 11/05/2002 11:16:05 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: Sabertooth
So, several of the shootings were within a certain distance of a certain mosque. What proof is there that they had any connection to that mosque or to al Fuqra? Those same shootings have thousands of businesses and the like in common, until you present evidence there's no reason to single out the mosque or al Fuqra.
54 posted on 11/11/2002 8:21:53 PM PST by BiffSchneider
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Speculations as to why the snipers chose the DC area have ranged from Al Qaeda diversions, to possible connections with the Al Fuqra-related "Muslims of the Americas" compound in Red House, VA (two hours away), to an elaborate subterfuge to kill Muhammad's ex-wife, who lives about 30 miles away in Clinton Maryland, south of the Beltway.

Ping. Was this near Laurel, MD?

55 posted on 10/17/2003 12:26:47 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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