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To: Notwithstanding
I think Nazi Germany had the same attitude back in the 1930-40s. And I only thought conservatives were capable of being "fascists".
2 posted on 11/25/2002 6:55:41 AM PST by ctnoell
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To: ctnoell
You probably already knew this, but the "Nazi" name comes from the German words for "National Socialist". They certainly weren't conservative or even liberal in the classic sense.
4 posted on 11/25/2002 6:59:34 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: ctnoell
And I only thought conservatives were capable of being "fascists".

Most people who accuse others of being "fascist" are usually just taking stands agasint laws that they believe cramp their personal desires to blow dope and to indulge in irresponsible, death and disease-spreading sexual behaviors.

The Nazis, especially the more prominent ones, were very much into kinky sex and recreational drugs.

But the Nazis also practiced eugenics on a huge scale. In that sense, this bio-ethicist definitely shows his Nazi sympathies.

That's really about all there is to it.

14 posted on 11/25/2002 7:16:58 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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When you live with a viewpoint of the world, where there is no God.... there is no innate value to life... therefor murder, before or after birth means nothign more than releasing some trapped carbon back into the ecosystem. Islam and Aetheism.. the worlds 2 great religions of Satan.
23 posted on 11/25/2002 7:36:03 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: ctnoell

I think Nazi Germany had the same attitude back in the 1930-40s. And I only thought conservatives were capable of being "fascists".

CBHD: Death as Deliverance: Euthanatic Thinking in Germany ca. ...

While it is commonly assumed that the moral atrocities associated with the Holocaust were the exclusive domain of Adolf Hitler and his loyal henchmen Joseph Goebbels, Hermann Goering, Heinrich Himmler and Albert Speer, this was only the final act, as it were, of a narrative whose beginnings are traceable to the turn of the century. Indeed it would appear, as authors as diverse as Alexander Mitscherlich, Robert Jay Lifton, Michael Burleigh, and Wesley Smith have documented, that the path to medical evil was prepared "long before Nazism was even a cloud on the German horizon." One of the tragic legacies of social Darwinism, rooted in the presupposition of biological determinism, is that it assisted in giving justification--frequently couched in the language of "compassion"--to the elimination of lebensunwertes Leben, life that is unworthy of living, or, in the language of Darwinists, life that is simply unfit.

Further justification for euthanasia in the pre-WWI era was provided by people such as social theorist Adolf Jost and Nobel-Prize-winning chemist Wilhelm Ostwald. According to Ostwald, "in all circumstances suffering represents a restriction upon, and diminution of, the individual and capacity to perform in society of the person suffering." In his 1895 book Das Recht auf den Tod ("The Right to Death"), Jost set forth the argument–-an argument almost forty years in advance of Nazi prescriptions–-that the "right" to kill existed in the context of the higher rights possessed by the state, since all individuals belong to the social organism of the state. Furthermore, this was couched in terms of "compassion" and "relief" from one’s suffering. Finally, the right to kill compassionately was predicated on biology, in accordance with the spirit of the age: the state must ensure that the social organism remains fit and healthy.

31 posted on 11/25/2002 7:47:32 AM PST by Remedy
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