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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
The technology is sound. Mistakes commited by four Osprey pilots has been the major problem.

Photos of the Marine pilots killed in the Harrier

Wonder if they'll point out those who were responsible for their own deaths.

What bothers me about this is that in defending the aircraft, we belittle the human cost. If the flight system is too complicated to be safe then other options should be looked at. But, if the mission is so critical that it justifies the risk, then so be it.

That is the why I am wondering "what is the LA Times up to." Any Marine Corps aviators that could weigh in on the issue of VTOL?

10 posted on 12/13/2002 7:45:19 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: The_Victor
If the flight system is too complicated to be safe then other options should be looked at.

I knew two of the guys who bought it in Harriers.

Neither of them had ever impressed me with their basic airmanship. They would've eventually killed themselves in Phantoms or Hornets--the specific kill mechanism would have changed, that's all.

17 posted on 12/13/2002 8:05:59 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: The_Victor
If the flight system is too complicated to be safe then other options should be looked at.

That's exactly what was done. The AV-8B version is much easier and safer to fly. It is still not safe enough? I don't know, are the LA and Houston freeways "safe enough"? I'm sure they "kill" more people in a few months than have died in all the harrier crashes everywhere in the world. The Harrier is operated by Spain, Italy, Thailand, and India, in addition to the US and UK, IIRC.

134 posted on 12/15/2002 2:31:28 PM PST by El Gato
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