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Teen armed with paint sprayer nozzle shot by officer
By Ian Ith and Michael Ko ^

Posted on 12/13/2002 7:37:53 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

The 17-year-old teen shot in the head by a Seattle police officer last night as he ran away from police had been armed only with a gun-shaped commercial paint sprayer nozzle when he robbed a customer at an automated teller machine in Wallingford.

Police leaders this morning said the 31-year-old SWAT officer who pulled the trigger justifiably believed the teen was an armed and dangerous felon who had committed an increasingly violent series of nearly a dozen ATM robberies.

"You've got a situation of escalating, serious, violent confrontations with citizens, and he is caught in the act, fleeing and getting away," Deputy Police Chief Clark Kimerer said. "And he's on his way to a densely populated part of town. I'm not seeing a lot of alternatives in this scenario."

The shooting occurred about 9:20 p.m. near the Bank of America branch at 36th Street North and Stone Way North. The teen was in critical condition this morning at Seattle's Harborview Medical Center.

Police had been staking out the bank because it was one of three banks in Wallingford and Capitol Hill that have been targeted since Halloween by what police believe were the same young robbers. An ATM stick-up had occurred at the Stone Way bank Monday night, police said.

In last night's holdup, officers saw two men approach a man who was using the ATM, police said. One of the young men, wearing a ski mask, grabbed the customer, slammed his face against the wall and stuck what looked like a chrome pistol in the man's back.

The customer "felt there was a weapon at his back and the suspect said he would kill him," said Kimerer. Police moved in immediately and confronted the robber, who ran north on Stone Way.

The robber's accomplice, who was serving as a lookout, ran in a different direction but was captured by police nearby.

The robber was running away as well and clearly running faster than the officers.

"He was winning the race," Kimerer said.

Officer William Geoghagan who has been on the force for about eight years, fired twice, striking the teen in the head. He fell about a block from the bank.

Police found that the robber's "weapon," a silver paint-sprayer nozzle covered with a stocking hat, had been dropped back at the ATM. The suspected accomplice had been carrying an identical spray nozzle, covered in a red stocking hat.

Officers didn't know the guns were fakes as they pursued the young man, and they didn't know he had dropped the phony gun, Kimerer said.

"A fleeing felon who represents a continuing threat to the community may be apprehended by using deadly force," Kimerer said. "What we were dealing with was a violent, predatory criminal who didn't care who his next victim was."

Police said this morning that the young men definitely fit the descriptions of the two robbers who have been sticking up ATM customers.

Police said there may be a third young man involved in some of the robberies, but they didn't have any clear indication that a third suspect participated in the robbery last night.

In the previous ATM holdups, victims told police they were approached from behind by two men and either saw a handgun or felt what they thought was a handgun. The robbers almost typically demanded the customers withdraw 300 dollars to give them.

Before targeting the bank on Stone Way this week, the robbers struck almost exclusively at a Bank of America branch in the 1300 block of East Madison Street on Capitol Hill.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; fleeingfelon; rhodesia; shotintheback; swat
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1 posted on 12/13/2002 7:37:53 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: big ern; *bang_list
For you bang_listers to chew on. I'm sure comments on the shooting of a fleeing felon will be forthcoming as it usually brings out both sides of the debate rapidly.
2 posted on 12/13/2002 7:39:58 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: big ern
The 17-year-old teen shot in the head by a Seattle police officer last night as he ran away from police had been armed only with a gun-shaped commercial paint sprayer nozzle when he robbed a customer at an automated teller machine in Wallingford.

Never bring a paint sprayer to a gunfight. To do so is to be very impious to Father Darwin.

I guess this gets classified as "thinning the herd."

3 posted on 12/13/2002 7:40:04 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: oyez
Here is one I just posted with a commonality to the Subway Vigilante thread.

I just gave the Sub shop owner a catchy phrase for the media to glom onto.

4 posted on 12/13/2002 7:41:53 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: big ern
"A fleeing felon who represents a continuing threat to the community may be apprehended by using deadly force," Kimerer said. "What we were dealing with was a violent, predatory criminal who didn't care who his next victim was."

Score one for the good guys. I just wish we peasants were held to the same standard under the same conditions.

5 posted on 12/13/2002 7:42:05 PM PST by coloradan
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; FreedomPoster; Timesink; AntiGuv; ...
Idiot ping...
"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

6 posted on 12/13/2002 7:43:25 PM PST by mhking
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To: big ern
Life [and Death] without Jesus.
7 posted on 12/13/2002 7:48:46 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: coloradan
Score one for the good guys. I just wish we peasants were held to the same standard under the same conditions.

Actually, earlier this year we had a bystander shoot a fleeing Jewlery store robber and he didn't evn go before the grand juror. By bystander I mean he was walking down the sidewalk when the two perps came out the door and got in their car and tried to drive away.

8 posted on 12/13/2002 7:49:10 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: big ern
Was it a double tap?
9 posted on 12/13/2002 7:50:01 PM PST by dts32041
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To: big ern
Spraying lead-based paint?
10 posted on 12/13/2002 7:50:16 PM PST by GalvestonBeachcomber
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To: mhking; Libertina; Billthedrill
Of course the other Seattle paper was sure to identify the shot perp as black and the cop as white, lest anyone try not to assign a racial quality to this criminal getting his brain splattered around the inside of his cranium.
11 posted on 12/13/2002 7:52:27 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: dts32041
I would have to have been a double tap for he 9mm round to put the guy in critical condition after striking his head. A .45 would have split his head at the cellular level with one shot.
12 posted on 12/13/2002 7:54:12 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: big ern
There are a lot of bad police shootings imo but this was not one of them.
13 posted on 12/13/2002 7:54:22 PM PST by yarddog
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To: big ern
I demand that the government step in and pass laws requiring that all sprayer nosels be painted with an orange stripe on the end so that police will know it is not a real weapon.

Not!

14 posted on 12/13/2002 7:54:29 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: big ern
This is a true story: I was not allowed to board a plane because I was carrying a "paint gun" in my brief case.
15 posted on 12/13/2002 7:55:39 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: big ern
I thought swat teams were moving back to the .45>

We taught double taps no matter what weapon 9mm .45, just wondered if he rememberd his training?

16 posted on 12/13/2002 7:59:57 PM PST by dts32041
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To: big ern
Officers didn't know the guns were fakes as they pursued the young man, and they didn't know he had dropped the phony gun, Kimerer said.

If the "gun" was fake or real isn't the point, IMHO.
The victims as well as the police believed it was a real gun.
It was robbery.
The kid was stupid in the first place
(It's too bad he died because of being stupid)

17 posted on 12/13/2002 8:02:43 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Poohbah
Never bring a paint sprayer to a gunfight. To do so is to be very impious to Father Darwin. I guess this gets classified as "thinning the herd."

Perfecto..and well said! And, if I may add, any brat with a spray CAN anywhere near my walls is asking for the same treatment. Grafitti "artists" (as the Los Angeles Times now likes to call them) should be shot if their little fingers hit the button.


18 posted on 12/13/2002 8:07:44 PM PST by ErnBatavia
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To: big ern
Ban paint sprayers, for God's sake! How many more must die?/sarcasm off Of course the libs will classify this as the handgun-related death of a child....
19 posted on 12/13/2002 8:13:06 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: big ern
The robber was "clearly running faster than the officers". That tells you all you need to know;))))
20 posted on 12/13/2002 8:19:02 PM PST by Frank_2001
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