Posted on 12/30/2002 9:21:34 AM PST by mgstarr
KANSAS CITY -- The Comfort Inn here was the third stop for Freedom Drive, 2002, and the place where Titles of Nobility Amendment (TONA) researcher Suzanne Nevling of San Francisco, California produced a copy of “Military Laws of the United States to which is prefixed the Constitution of the United States.”
The book, published under authority of the War Department in 1825, proves that the original 13th Amendment that prohibits Americans from holding Titles of Nobility, was part of the Constitution until it was mysteriously replaced with a new 13th Amendment that banned slavery after the Civil War. “When we found this book last September we knew that we had found that the original 13th Amendment was part of the Constitution as of 1825,” Nevling said.
Previous TONA research proves that on March 12, 1819, Virginia became the 13th and final state required for ratification of the original 13th Amendment when it published in the laws of Virginia Act No. 280 as passed by its legislature.
TONA research has shown that the state of Virginia forwarded copies of its revised code to the Department of State, the Congress, the Library of Congress and the President.
There is no indication in the Congressional Record or any other official journal that the original 13th Amendment has been repealed. In the absence of a lawful explanation as to the whereabouts of the missing 13th Amendment, we have little choice but to infer that it is still the law of the land and those who hold titles of nobility or receive largesse from foreign nations are no longer American citizens. Such persons, per the Amendment, are not capable, “... of holding any office of trust or profit...”
The original 13th Amendment is found in copies of the Constitution published up to 1876. From that point on, the original 13th Amendment no longer appears and is replaced by the 13th Amendment that prohibits slavery. It is still a mystery as to how the slavery amendment, ratified under President Abraham Lincoln in 1865, replaced the title of nobility amendment of 1819 in all copies of the Constitution published since 1876.
TONA researchers have been doggedly trying to find out where a properly ratified and never repealed constitutional amendment has been hiding for the last 126 years. Though the exact political location of the missing 13th Amendment has eluded them since David Dodge began researching the issue in the early 1980s, Nevling believes that the final pieces of the TONA puzzle will reveal themselves in due course.
Now more than ever
We currently live in an era where advances in communications, travel and commerce have all but dissolved the boundaries of sovereign nations. Adding to the intrigue we have the governments of what remains of sovereign nations operating under credit afforded them by multinational corporation-owned banks that hold the assets and resources of the nation as collateral on the loans. If there has ever been a period in American history where influential persons may be compelled to compromise national security in trade for titles of nobility, presents, pensions, salaries, offices or other “emoluments,” it is now.
The purpose of the original 13th Amendment, which at the time of its ratification had popular support, was to add severe penalties to prohibitions against the acceptance of titles of nobility or other favors from foreign powers as found in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution.
The Founders understood that history was replete with examples of how public servants accepted favors from foreign interests to the severe detriment of national security. The Founders concern was so great they addressed it in the first article of the Constitution.
The Founders saw that the Constitutional provision alone was not sufficient to deter influential individuals from entering into potentially disastrous relationships with representatives of foreign nations. The result was ratification of the original 13th Amendment during the administration of President James Monroe.
“This Article of Amendment is intimately connected to questions of war and national defense. It is designed to combat internal subversion and discord sowed by people who are adhering to foreign powers without stepping across the bold Constitutional line of treason,” TONA researchers explain.
All attorneys and judges who claim the title “esquire,” a title of English nobility beneath knighthood and extended to professional men, are incapable of holding public office under the Amendment. If enforced, nearly half the legislators in office throughout America would be removed from office and stripped of their citizenship.
A partial list of influential Americans who have been “honorarily” knighted by the Queen of England include Henry Kissinger, Norman Schwarzkopf, Colin Powell, Casper Weinberger, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Sr., Rudy Giullani and Alan Greenspan. If the real 13th Amendment were enforced those men would be stripped of their citizenship and would not be allowed to hold positions of public trust.
(Excerpt) Read more at proliberty.com ...
PT Barnum was right.
Move along, no agenda to see here.
The original 13th Amendment is found in copies of the Constitution published up to 1876. From that point on, the original 13th Amendment no longer appears and is replaced by the 13th Amendment that prohibits slavery. It is still a mystery as to how the slavery amendment, ratified under President Abraham Lincoln in 1865, replaced the title of nobility amendment of 1819 in all copies of the Constitution published since 1876.
I'm interested in seeing evidence that supports or refutes these specific assertions.
Doesn't change the underlying facts at all. Does it?
But Greenspan isn't a Republican. And you can claim Powell if you want to. I wouldn't.
Sounds like a plan
An insufficient number of states ratified the Titles of Nobility Amendment ("TONA") to make it part of the Constitution. But, although mostly forgotten in this century, the amendment was more than just a footnote to history in the last century. Well into the second half of the nineteenth century, some textbooks, state compliations of law, and even on one occasion a complilation of law published under the auspices of COngress erroneously included TONA as if ratitifed. Further, after the ratification of the Twenty-seventh Amendment to the Constitution in 1992, scholars noted that if James Madison's amednment could be ratified after 203 years, there was no ommediatly obvious reason why TONA was not still viable, if still far distant from becoming part of the Constituion.
But even before the ratification of the Twenty-seventh Amendment gave the other amendments to the Constitution that were submitted to the states but not ratified their fifteen Warhollian minutes of fame, TONA also had received attention from a different - and disturbing - source. In August 1991, an extremistsmall-press magazine entuitled AntiShyster published a series of articles by David Dodge, who claimed to have discovered that TONA in fact had been ratified and later supressed. Dodge's articles have found a ready audience in many extremist organizations, and have found their ionto the Internet, where they are availble from world wide web sites, along with additional commentary and information from TONA proponents. Following Dodge, TONA proponents put forward an assortment of "constitutional nonsense," such as the claim that the amendment would exclude lawyers ("espuires") from public office. Some even use TONA to justify "sentencing" state officials to death or murdering police officers.
Dodge's claims do not stand up to cursory, much less careful scrutiny. But alternatively, if not mainstream media outlets have on occasion accepted his claims as accurate. Further, the limited attention TONA has received from scholars has overlooked key facts about TONA's history, allowing extremist claims about the amendment to flourish. Under some - if not most - circumstances, responding to extremist claims is an exercise of dubious value, lending them credence they do not merit. But because TONA has received so little scholarly attention - and because its proponents claim the amendment would disenfranchise lawyers from serving in public office, a significant attack on our system of government and civil liberties - the history of and claims about TONA merit attention.
Source: The "missing 13th amendment"
I missed that part in skimming the article the first time, thanks for picking up on that, JSUATI.
DAnconia55, I doubt there are that many facts in the article to require refuting.
As you've probably observed, one cannot get in the last word with lunatics.
...which will only "prove" that you're shilling for the conspiracy.
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