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An Impact Event in 3114BC? The beginning of a Turbulent Millennium.
http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/tilmari/tilmari3.htm#bc3114 ^

Posted on 01/03/2003 8:06:06 PM PST by ckilmer

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To: farmfriend
Ping.
21 posted on 02/03/2004 11:42:20 AM PST by blam
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To: ckilmer; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; A.J.Armitage; abner; adam_az; AdmSmith; Alas Babylon!; ...
Gods, Graves, Glyphs
List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.

22 posted on 02/03/2004 1:52:11 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: blam
There used to be a web site about what happened around 3100 BC run by a scientist from Sanford, .... Donneley.com or something, a troublesome time, the period around Sargon is another.
23 posted on 02/03/2004 2:07:00 PM PST by Little Bill (I can't take another rat in the White House at my age.)
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To: ckilmer
bump!
24 posted on 02/03/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Mr.Atos
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To: BenLurkin
disasters work to God's will and to the good of his children

Reading about these world-wide catastrophes, can't help but wonder if they're not recounted biblically in the 7 year famine during Joseph's rise to power in Egypt, and the famine that occurred during the time of Elijah.

the Sumerian story of Flood, on which basis the Genesis Noachian Flood story is built

I get really tired of the claim that the Israelites stole these stories from other cultures. I have a theory about why all these similar stories exist--because the event really happened.

Before writing occurred, history was handed down as oral tradition. So, in the telling of the tale, minor changes would occur over time much like that game where a group of poeple start a saying at one end of a line and by the time it gets to the last person it no longer resembles the original statement.

25 posted on 02/03/2004 3:44:06 PM PST by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: SunkenCiv
Civ, I know how much you love catastrophes :)
26 posted on 02/03/2004 7:05:32 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Professional Engineer
ping
27 posted on 02/03/2004 7:20:37 PM PST by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)
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To: ckilmer
"An Impact Event in 3114BCE? The beginning of a Turbulent Millennium."

Here, I fixed the title. Gotta be politically correct now.

28 posted on 02/03/2004 7:24:36 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: ckilmer
When did the Mediterranean Sea break through the Bosporus Straits to fill the Black Sea? The mass migration caused by that would surely have wreaked havoc throughout Europe. And even earlier question is when did the Mediterranean break through the land bridge from Gibraltar to North Africa? That was an even bigger upheaval to the people living in the low-lying, fertile, and warm area that is now the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea.
29 posted on 02/03/2004 7:33:30 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: ckilmer
INCREASINGLY RIGHT ON CUE, IN OUR ERA

. . .

"SIGNS IN THE HEAVENS."

Hard to beat THE BOOK for predictions.

We shall see how soon and how much more. Have been plenty already.
30 posted on 02/03/2004 7:51:18 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: BenLurkin
Nice nick. Good to see someone online with that interest.
31 posted on 02/04/2004 7:12:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (he was right)
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To: blam
a short excerpt from a short review of the book shown below:
Catastrophes, tree-rings and climate
by Andrew Sherratt
If this seems a long time ago, then remember that in 1908 an impact equivalent to a ten-megaton explosion left a 1.2km crater in Tunguska (Siberia), and that events of this magnitude probably occur with a frequency of between once a century and once a millennium. Worth searching for in the tree-rings. Mike Baillie is a leading dendrocatastrophist who believes he had found them. There are certainly some dramatic and widespread anomalies in tree-ring thicknesses, though many may be associated with volcanic eruptions rather than impacts. Sadly, the hard evidence does not yet make a story. Undeterred, Baillie recruits an amazing mixture of historical records for various kinds of unusual phenomena and their associated mythologies, in a way which goes far beyond any credibility as serious science... but a serious idea still awaits investigation.
Exodus to Arthur Exodus to Arthur:
Catastrophic Encounters with Comets

by Mike Baillie

32 posted on 02/04/2004 7:15:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (comets are gettin' all the tail)
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To: SunkenCiv
"a short excerpt from a short review of the book shown below: "

Thanks, I have this excellent book by Professor Mike Baillie.

33 posted on 02/04/2004 7:26:15 AM PST by blam
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To: ckilmer
Saturn -- the chief of Gods. Thank you -- cronos...
34 posted on 02/04/2004 7:38:05 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: ckilmer
I think the Egyptian myth starts with some overgod Amun who mastur****s and creates a God and Goddess -- the God of air and the Goddess of moisture. These two unite and create two more gods -- of earth and of sky. The earth and Sky bro and sis get together and are interrupted by their dad, the God of air but they manage to give birth to Osiris, Isis, Set and Nephtyhys who give birth to all the lower gods.

This myth was then taken up by the Minoans and then the Greeks who turned the Gods before Osiris to Kronos and the Titans.

I don't think the Indus or Yello river valley civilisations worshipped Saturn.
35 posted on 02/04/2004 7:43:42 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: COEXERJ145
that E is stupid. (and I guess you agree with me, but I've just got to rant about it), What does before the Common Era MEAN??? IF you take out the fact that Christ was born around 0 BC-AD, what other great events happened +/- 5 years around the year 0? Augustus had been Emperor since 27 BC, the Guptas were rulers in India,the Qin in China. Common Era???? huh??? Daft.
36 posted on 02/04/2004 8:16:55 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: Cronos
Yeah, I think it is stupid that is why I was making fun of it. BCE/CE is just another way for the anti-Christian crowd to try and remove anything and everything to do with God/Christ from the world. Well, I'm one historian who will continue to say BC/AD regardless of what the PC crowd wants.
37 posted on 02/04/2004 8:20:33 AM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: ValerieUSA
Thanks Val! I wandered around a bit in some of the crosslinked topics and drifted out to see if the originals were still online, had a good time. I have some of them already filed around the hard drive. For my own convenience, I'm putting all the culled links here: I have waited a LONG time for this disk! Saw the "Restless Earth" collection at Best Buy a couple of days ago, and finally got a chance to look for the single title on DVD. I'm listing the book also, which I have, because A) it's really good, B) it didn't show up in the search just now, C) it's related since Eugene Shoemaker is the "star" of this video, and D) Levy included a nice discussion of Velikovsky, a fact I noted in my too-short Amazon review.
Asteroids: Deadly Impact Asteroids:
Deadly Impact

National Geographic
Shoemaker by Levy Shoemaker:
The Man Who Made An Impact

by David H. Levy
Restless Earth Collection Restless Earth Collection
National Geographic

38 posted on 02/04/2004 10:35:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (rocks from space are here to stay)
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To: COEXERJ145
"Yeah, I think it is stupid that is why I was making fun of it. BCE/CE is just another way for the anti-Christian crowd to try and remove anything and everything to do with God/Christ from the world. Well, I'm one historian who will continue to say BC/AD regardless of what the PC crowd wants."

Yup, I've already crossed that bridge...I've spent a life time with it, I'm not changing now.

39 posted on 02/16/2004 8:12:50 PM PST by blam
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To: ckilmer
The beginnings of civilizations, however, got despite of the immediate damage

I couldn't well get past this glaring syntaxical stumbling block though I tried.

This is quite poorly written.

40 posted on 02/16/2004 9:03:27 PM PST by Old Professer
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