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Eco-Nut: 'Terrorism Can Be OK'
the center for consumer freedom ^ | 1.8.03 | center for consumer freedom

Posted on 01/08/2003 10:47:14 PM PST by freepatriot32

Craig Rosebraugh, the former Earth Liberation Front (ELF) “spokesperson” who invoked the Fifth Amendment over 50 times during a Congressional hearing last year, is far more open and candid with Portland’s Willamette Week. “Terrorism can be OK” and “can be justified,” Rosebraugh now says.

Whether you agree with Rosebraugh or not, the ELF is certainly contributing a good deal of terror to the equation. Early New Year’s Day, ELF vandals firebombed four new sport utility vehicles on an auto dealership’s lot near Erie, Pennsylvania.

The site was just miles away from a mink farm where ELF, along with the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) set fire to a barn in November. The Erie Times-News notes that a total of seven violent crimes, including several arsons and a tree-spiking incident, have been attributed to the ELF in that region since last March. Elsewhere, the Boston Herald reports that ELF criminals have followed up their Virginia SUV vandalism spree with a similar one in Newton, Massachusetts.

Activists on the animal-rights side of the terrorism ledger have been equally busy lately. In the UK, an ALF-affiliated group called the Animal Rights Militia (ARM) claimed last month that it added paint stripper to 300 jars of Oil of Olay. ARM is apparently upset that Procter & Gamble uses animals in safety assessments of its products. The same group announced just before Christmas that it had sent holiday cards containing razor blades to eight Britons, including four poultry farmers and one shareholder in Huntingdon Life Sciences.

Also in Great Britain, activists burned an animal feed business to the ground on December 26, and spray-painted animal-rights slogans on a church. And ALF criminals attempting to “liberate” 7,000 chickens from a Dorset farm were surprised to find, after breaking in, that it had been converted into a “free range” facility. In the ensuing panic, over 150 hens were killed as a result of these “compassionate” activists trying to “free” them.

Closer to home, the Center for Consumer Freedom has learned that convicted ALF arsonist Rodney Coronado is scheduled to speak at a Wilmington, Delaware church two Sundays from now. We’ve written to Elsmere Presbyterian Church pastor Thomas Stout in the hopes of persuading him to kick the bully out of his pulpit.


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convicted ALF arsonist Rodney Coronado is scheduled to speak at a Wilmington, Delaware church two Sundays from now.

ok maybe im just not as much of a biblical scholar as i thought i was but i cant seem to find any scriptures that say go yee unto all the oregon ski lodges and suv dealerships and burn them to the ground with fire and brimstone thus commands your lord thy god ps and if you can kill a few chickens while your at it that would really make the big JC giddy as all heck to

so help me out freepers is it somewhere near the back that i just havent gott to or something ?

1 posted on 01/08/2003 10:47:14 PM PST by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32
so help me out freepers is it somewhere near the back that i just havent gott to or something ?

I don't recall Jesus asking his followers to overthrow rome. He simply told them to spread a message.

I wonder why those freaks go around saving animals while applauding abortions, and fighting against the death penalty.

They would gladly protect Saddam, who is a known mass murdered/serial killer, but attack american cars. I am reminded of a little item I read from a buddhist many years ago:

"Is it ok to kill?" asked the student.

"If you are on a boat with 400 people and the captain is going to sink the boat and kill all on board, and the only way to prevent this is to kill the captain, then you are repsonsible for the 400 lives he took if you allow him."

2 posted on 01/08/2003 11:04:10 PM PST by chance33_98 (http://frognet.net/~thowell/hannahmore/)
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To: freepatriot32
If that ass clown spoke at my church, I'd find a new one.

I'd also hang in the parking lot and firebomb his car while he was speaking. Oooooooh! That sounds like a freep!

3 posted on 01/08/2003 11:05:52 PM PST by Captainpaintball (Tweaking the nipples of liberals everywhere...)
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To: chance33_98
Don't forget... Saddam is also the man responsible for perhaps the worst man-made disaster in history... 1991's gulf war oil well fires.

WHY have the enviro-nuts forgotten this?

4 posted on 01/08/2003 11:09:19 PM PST by Captainpaintball (Peeing on Liberalism's parade since 1996!!!)
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To: freepatriot32
...the ELF is certainly contributing a good deal of terror to the equation. Early New Year’s Day, ELF vandals firebombed four new sport utility vehicles...

Boy, if I were a Sport Utility Vehicle, I'd be really terrified, all right... << yawwwwnnnn >>
These ninnies may *want* to think they're "Terrorists", but all they are is common vandals. They're barely more than an itch to scratch. The first time one of them spends a few years in jail with some *real* criminals, it will come back out so popeyed with horror stories that it will scare all the rest of the middle-class children in the ELF into sticking to dope-addled fantasies.

It'll be fun to watch, too - look at the former "SLA" members, whenever one of them gets caught nowadays after being in hiding for 20 years - they whine like a Liberal at a gunshow, with indignation at losing their cushy lifestyle. I can hardly wait for this current crop to start doing some hard time... they're even more loony and infantile than the 60's generation of activists (if that's possible).

5 posted on 01/08/2003 11:43:06 PM PST by fire_eye
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To: freepatriot32
I see that for the green bigots, their ends justify any means whatever. Okay, sauce for the goose and all that. What do you suppose they would say to sentencing unproductive people to death, to reduce the drain on the world's resources while conserving the quality of life for the survivors? They certainly couldn't dissent from this on principle. Once you've allowed that the ends justify the means, you've forsworn all principles.

By the way, I'm not advocating the above policy, just in case you were wondering. But other figures known to history have implemented it. Stalin. Hitler. Mao. Have we ever had a statement from these lovable lefties about why what those famous dictators did was wrong? Absolutely wrong, and "not to be right by the decisions of statesmen" -- ?

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit The Palace Of Reason:
http://palaceofreason.com

6 posted on 01/09/2003 5:03:07 AM PST by fporretto
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To: Captainpaintball
Don't forget... Saddam is also the man responsible for perhaps the worst man-made disaster in history... 1991's gulf war oil well fires.

WHY have the enviro-nuts forgotten this?

Sorry, not forgotten but its exactly their modus operandi they employ against things they allegdly dislike.

7 posted on 01/09/2003 5:47:09 AM PST by prophetic
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To: freepatriot32; madfly; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie
Give me the address or the name of the church please.
8 posted on 01/09/2003 5:48:41 AM PST by sauropod
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To: freepatriot32; hellinahandcart; KLT; countrydummy; Carry_Okie
Saw the name. never mind.
9 posted on 01/09/2003 5:50:19 AM PST by sauropod
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To: Free the USA; Carry_Okie; backhoe; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Libertarianize the GOP; freefly; 2sheep; ...
ping
10 posted on 01/09/2003 5:58:43 AM PST by madfly
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To: sauropod
I like it.
11 posted on 01/09/2003 6:44:10 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Look at who's calling us tyrannical.)
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To: freepatriot32
A convicted terrorist arsonist preaching TERRISM IN A CHURCH?!?!
12 posted on 01/09/2003 6:47:03 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: madfly
Thanks for the ping....copy of letter sent to Pastor Stout:

January 6, 2003

Thomas Stout, Pastor
Elsmere Presbyterian Church
New Road And Ohio Avenue
Wilmington, DE 19805

Dear Pastor Stout,

It recently came to my attention that Elsmere Presbyterian Church is planning to host a speaking engagement on Sunday, January 19, at 3:00 pm. The scheduled speaker is Rodney Coronado, and his appearance is being promoted by two animal rights organizations: “Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty” (SHAC) and “Delaware Action for Animals.” A Wilmington resident named Marion Smith is also promoting the event on Internet animal-rights mailing lists.

I urge you to reconsider allowing Rodney Coronado to use your church as a platform for his violent message. Coronado is a convicted felon who spent over 4 years behind bars for the animal rights-related arson of a research laboratory at Michigan State University. In addition, he has publicly admitted to other acts of arson, theft, and willful private property destruction, all in the name of animal rights.

Many churches, of course, minister quite legitimately to those with criminal backgrounds, and I don’t mean to suggest that Coronado’s crimes alone should disqualify him as a speaker at Elsmere. But such a ministry usually aims to showcase a speaker’s penitence, allowing the congregation to learn an appropriate moral lesson in the process.

Rodney Coronado has demonstrated that he has no interest in expressing remorse or atoning for his crimes. In fact, the sole purpose of his current speaking tour is to encourage other animal rights activists to engage in violent, illegal activities. Five weeks ago, at a similar event in New Jersey, Coronado told an audience of 400 activists: “I wish I didn’t have to stand up here and talk about and justify and encourage direct action – encourage breaking the law, encourage burning down buildings…. But I do.”

Coronado continued: “A lot of people think that – oh my god, that’s going too far, you know. People can support bringing animals out of labs, but they can’t support arson. Well, I’m sorry. I’m not here to please people.”

In the course of Coronado’s 60-minute November 30 speech, he admitted to four arsons and three other destructive break-ins, all in connection with the Animal Liberation Front, a criminal organization that the FBI considers America’s “single most serious domestic terrorism threat.”

In addition, Coronado encouraged his audience to revolt against the U.S. government: “From day one, the United States has been about oppression…. I don’t believe that we can change that government. I think we need to just tear the whole damned thing down and start all over again.”

I would be happy to send you a videotaped copy of Coronado’s November 30 speech, so that you may make an informed determination about whether his promotion of terrorist violence is an appropriate theme for your church’s support. Please consider my offer seriously.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

David Martosko
Director of Research
The Center for Consumer Freedom

SOURCE: Letter at bottom under CCF press release

13 posted on 01/09/2003 6:55:50 AM PST by cake_crumb (First Nation of Islam leaders, now eco-terrorists)
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To: *Enviralists
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14 posted on 01/09/2003 8:23:42 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: Captainpaintball; 1Old Pro; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; a_federalist; abner; aculeus; alaskanfan; ...
"Don't forget... Saddam is also the man responsible for perhaps the worst man-made disaster in history... 1991's gulf war oil well fires.
WHY have the enviro-nuts forgotten this?"

Because their agenda has nothing to do with the 'environment.' - Their goal is the end of freedom, world wide.

Three things make men free:

1. God's Word

2. Guns

3. Cars

They are out to destroy all of them.

15 posted on 01/09/2003 12:44:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: cake_crumb
I think that you will likely find that Elsmere Presbyterian Church is, like many Presbyterian churches in this country, a 'church' in name only, and is really a front for anti-Christian, anti-American activities.
16 posted on 01/09/2003 12:51:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor
Three things make men free:
1. God's Word
2. Guns
3. Cars

NEVER heard it put better!

17 posted on 01/09/2003 12:51:22 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: editor-surveyor
Bingo. Excellent observation.
18 posted on 01/09/2003 12:55:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The UN stole it's power from sovereign nations, whose citizens couldn't vote against it's policies.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Have you seen this one?

TV Ads Say S.U.V. Owners Support Terrorists

WASHINGTON, Jan. 7 — Ratcheting up the debate over sport utility vehicles, new television commercials suggest that people who buy the vehicles are supporting terrorists. The commercials are so provocative that some television stations are refusing to run them.

Patterned after the commercials that try to discourage drug use by suggesting that profits from illegal drugs go to terrorists, the new commercials say that money for gas needed for S.U.V.'s goes to terrorists.

"This is George," a girl's voice says of an oblivious man at a gas station. "This is the gas that George bought for his S.U.V." The screen then shows a map of the Middle East. "These are the countries where the executives bought the oil that made the gas that George bought for his S.U.V." The picture switches to a scene of armed terrorists in a desert. "And these are the terrorists who get money from those countries every time George fills up his S.U.V."

A second commercial depicts a series of ordinary Americans saying things like: "I helped hijack an airplane"; "I gave money to a terrorist training camp in a foreign country"; "What if I need to go off-road?"

At the close, the screen is filled with the words: "What is your S.U.V. doing to our national security?"

The two 30-second commercials are the brainchild of the author and columnist Arianna Huffington. Her target audience, she said, is Detroit and Congress, especially the Republicans and Democrats who last year voted against a bill, sponsored by Senators John McCain, Republican of Arizona, and John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, that would have raised fuel-efficiency standards.

Spokesmen for the automakers dismissed the commercials.

Eron Shosteck, a spokesman for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, said of Ms. Huffington, "Her opinion is out-voted every year by Americans who buy S.U.V.'s for their safety, comfort and versatility." He said that S.U.V.'s now account for 21 percent of the market.

In an interview, Senator Kerry distanced himself from the commercials. He said that rather than oppose S.U.V.'s outright, he believed they should be more efficient.

"I haven't seen these commercials," he said, "but anybody can drive as large an S.U.V. as they want, though it can be more efficient than it is today."

Ms. Huffington's group, which calls itself the Detroit Project, has bought almost $200,000 of air time for the commercials, to run from Sunday to Thursday. While the group may lose some viewers if stations refuse to run the advertisements, the message is attracting attention through news coverage.

The advertisements are to be broadcast on "Meet The Press," "Face the Nation" and "This Week With George Stephanopoulos" in Detroit, Los Angeles, New York and Washington.

But some local affiliates say they will not run them. At the ABC affiliate in New York, Art Moore, director of programming, said, "There were a lot of statements being made that were not backed up, and they're talking about hot-button issues."

Ms. Huffington said she got the idea for the commercials while watching the antidrug commercials, sponsored by the Bush administration. In her syndicated column, she asked readers if they would be willing to pay for "a people's ad campaign to jolt our leaders into reality."

She said she received 5,000 e-mail messages and eventually raised $50,000 from the public. Bigger contributors included Steve Bing, the film producer; Larry David, the comedian and "Seinfeld" co-creator; and Norman Lear, the television producer.

19 posted on 01/09/2003 1:11:12 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: editor-surveyor
BTTT!!!!!
20 posted on 01/09/2003 1:28:20 PM PST by E.G.C.
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