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To: tpaine
NOW you claim that substances associated with religion are not..

Common sense. What substances are needed for firearms can be proven. Religious issues are faith based and rooted in no scientific fact. Where a substance comes into being a threat towards others, such as hard drugs, that out trumps you claiming it for religious purposes.

401 posted on 01/17/2003 8:47:04 AM PST by Texaggie79 (seriously joking or jokingly serious, you decide)
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To: Texaggie79
Just above [#326], you admitted that any substance associated with the right to bear arms/self defense is guaranteed. NOW you claim that substances associated with religion are not..
Aggie, give it up. You are totally illogical on this issue. 338 tpaine

Common sense. What substances are needed for firearms can be proven.
Religious issues are faith based and rooted in no scientific fact.

Freedom to practice religion is guaranteed. Wine is part of that practice, & I can prove it. Wrong again, aggie.

Where a substance comes into being a threat towards others, such as hard drugs, that out trumps you claiming it for religious purposes.

We are not discussing card rules, aggie. Constitutional law 'trumps' your silly made up opinions about "hard drugs".

407 posted on 01/17/2003 9:47:03 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Texaggie79
"Where a substance comes into being a threat towards others, such as hard drugs, that out trumps you claiming it for religious purposes."

What threat might that be? A drug user is a threat to himself. If he's sharing needles and passing a disease to his comrads, then they are only threats to each other. I say allow them to extinguish themselves peacefully from our midst.

But no, the do gooders seek to save them from themselves and thus we have this so called "drug war." And with this do gooder "drug war" we all suffer losses of basic human and constitutional rights. In the end, we all are losers.

Consider the war on terrorism. We all lose when we sacrifice freedom for security as we spiral downward toward an all out police state. When freedom is sacrificed, the terrorists win...and from where I sit, the terrorists are winning.

And from the looks of things, terrorists have many supporters who don't even realize they are supporters. Their supporters are folks who would sacrifice their freedom for security.

All that said, drug warriors are terrorists when they burst into a home in the middle of the night killing the inhabitants whether it the right or wrong address. Drug warriors are terrorists when they explode and bulldoze a church filled with women children and infants in Waco Texas all the while claiming the inhabitants had a meth lab when no such evidence of a lab was ever produced nor will it ever be since it never existed and was only used as an excuse for a bogus warrant.

Do you support this war? If you do, then in my view you are a terrorist. No less a terrorist than those who bombed us on 911.
426 posted on 01/17/2003 8:14:56 PM PST by takenoprisoner (stand for freedom or get the helloutta the way)
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