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Police Officers hot as a pistol over (Alltel) arena’s gun ban in NLR, AR
ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE ^ | 22 JAN 03 | BY AUSTIN GELDER

Posted on 01/22/2003 8:58:14 AM PST by DCBryan1

Officers hot as a pistol over arena’s gun ban
BY AUSTIN GELDER
ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE

A policy banning off-duty police from carrying handguns inside Alltel Arena is under fire from local officers who say they’ll boycott arena events rather than part with their weapons.

Ten deputies with the Pulaski County sheriff ’s office resigned from their part-time security jobs at the arena this week in protest of the gun ban. Their decision to quit was also driven by disappointment that they have not been called to work very many arena events.

"Most policemen I’ve talked to are highly offended about this" policy, said Skipper Polk, chief deputy for the Pulaski County sheriff ’s office. "Our deputies are very well-trained and professional. They feel like this is a slap at their professionalism, a slap at their abilities."

The 10 deputies also drafted a letter to the Arkansas attorney general’s office asking the staff to reconsider an opinion that supports the North Little Rock arena’s handgun policy.

Polk and other opponents of the ban point out that most law enforcement officers in the county carry their weapons at all times. They say having armed, off-duty officers in the crowd would make arena events safer.

With a weapon, "even if you’re off duty, you can respond to a crisis and protect yourself," Polk said.

But Alltel Arena General Manager Michael Marion said the presence of firearms in large crowds could be explosive. He fears what could happen if someone snatches a gun from an offduty officer. He also wonders how arena officials would verify that arena patrons wanting to carry guns in with them are really off-duty officers.

Weapon bans are in place at other Arkansas arenas, including the 19,200-seat Bud Walton Arena in Fayetteville and the Pine Bluff Convention Center. Similar policies are in effect in arenas across the country.

"We’re not out on a limb on this," Marion said. "You’d be hard-pressed to find a facility to let guns in."

Alltel Arena had a noweapons policy in place when it opened in October 1999 but intensified enforcement after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

"We’re searching people more with metal detectors and patdowns," Marion said.

Security officers working the doors often end up with basketfuls of pocketknives that patrons forfeit rather than carry back to their cars.

The arena does not allow patrons to check weapons in at the start of an event and pick them up when it’s over.

"I am just not interested in having guns laying around," Marion said.

The few who have been caught trying to bring guns into the 18,000-seat arena since the attacks have all been off-duty police officers, Marion said.

North Little Rock and arena officials sought an attorney general’s opinion on the handgun ban after off-duty officers challenged the policy after trying to attend arena events while carrying firearms. North Little Rock officers hired for arena security were forced into the awkward situation of confronting their fellow officers, said North Little Rock City Attorney Paul Suskie.

The Jan. 10 opinion affirming the arena’s weapon policy states that provisions of Arkansas Code Annotated 5-73-306(b) "override the authority" of an offduty officer carrying a concealed weapon. The section states that carrying a concealed handgun "may be disallowed in any place in the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over" that site.

The $80 million Alltel Arena, paid for with a mix of public and private funds, is run by a private company and overseen by an arena board. All board members agree on the gun ban, Marion said.

Off-duty officers who refuse to put their guns away can get a full refund for their tickets.

Although Marion won’t budge on the weapon policy, he said he’ll try to attract Pulaski County deputies back to his security force by offering them more hours.

Regardless, arena events will be as safe as possible, he said.

"We have a large pool of officers that we draw from. We’d like to have the county folks in that pool, but it’s not going to compromise the security of the Alltel Arena."

Antiweapon arguments haven’t won over many supporters at the Little Rock Police Department, where officers are insulted by the policy, department spokesman Terry Hastings said.

Hastings said he will not attend arena events and expects many of his co-workers will do the same.

"I’m not going anywhere without my weapon, personally," he said. "If something happens, I want to do something about it because I’m a police officer."

No Little Rock officers provide security for arena events, he said.

North Little Rock officers, who make up the bulk of the security force at the arena, haven’t complained about the handgun ban, North Little Rock Police Chief Danny Bradley said.

"That’s a decision that’s been made by the arena staff. I understand the rationale for doing so," he said.

This story was published Wednesday, January 22, 2003


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: alltelarena; arkansas; banglist; concealed; cops; handgun; northlittlerock; police; selfdefense
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OK RKBA Freepers, lets get to work!

There are five (5) simple and quick things you can to to help us here in Arkansas to change this assinine policy.

First: Forward this article to Angel Shamya at www.keepandbeararms.com and the NRA (my aol is down-thanks for taking up the slack)

Second: Leave FEEDBACK at Alltel Arena at:
(Alltel Arena Feedback Forum) or email them at: arena@alltelarena.com

Third:Contact the Arena BOARD where this crap policy came up by mail or phone at:

ALLTEL Arena
One Alltel Arena Way
North LIttle Rock, AR 72114
Phone: (501) 340-5660
Fax: 501-340-5668
email: arena@alltelarena.com

These are the the culprits:

ALLTEL Arena Staff
General Manager Michael Marion - antigunner
Office Manager Tami Warmington
Box Office Manager Ellen Yehling
Assistant Director Jason Fowler (he took my complaint) and was VERY, very nice and supportive of my position.
Director of Operations Wesley Holmes

Forth: Contact the NLR City ATTY Paul Suskie who is pro-gun, and ask him to quietly lean on the board to change their policy for off-duty cops.

City Attorney: Paul Suskie
City Attorney's Office
P. O. Box 5757
North Little Rock, AR 72119
Phone: 501-340-5336
Email: psuskie@alltel.net

Last thing you can do is contact Terry Hastings at Little Rock Police Department Media/Press Relations at: 501-371-4626 and give him praise for standing up to this assinine policy. I left a short message on his answering machine.

Thanks pro-gun, RKBA Freepers, and forward this to all your battle-buddies!

DCBryan1
Little Rock, AR

1 posted on 01/22/2003 8:58:14 AM PST by DCBryan1
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2 posted on 01/22/2003 8:58:57 AM PST by DCBryan1
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3 posted on 01/22/2003 9:01:30 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: DCBryan1
I have noticed a truism in my lifetime.

The only way to get oppressive, onerous rules repealed is for those same rules to apply to the rule makers/enforcers.

Absolutely - if citizens cannot carry firearms into a public place, neither can off-duty police officers. Policemen are not "special" citizens who are above the rules for other citizens.

4 posted on 01/22/2003 9:07:23 AM PST by MrB
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To: DCBryan1; *bang_list
For some reason to get this a thread to the bang_list one has to put in the '*' before the bang_list
5 posted on 01/22/2003 9:09:20 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: DCBryan1
The policy is stupid, but it's going to be hard to generate sympathy for the police officers if their union has ever taken a stand against RKBA for their fellow citizens.
6 posted on 01/22/2003 9:10:35 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: harpseal; bang_list; Admin Moderator
Some bozo recently signed up with "bang_list" as his user name. I guess he wanted to get pinged, but couldn't figure our how to read the bang_list.
7 posted on 01/22/2003 9:12:43 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Beelzebubba
Some bozo recently signed up with "bang_list" as his user name.

Maybe he thought this was a swingers chat room.

8 posted on 01/22/2003 9:16:15 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: DCBryan1
Awww, poor wittle police officers don't like being treated like the rest of us peasants.
9 posted on 01/22/2003 9:17:25 AM PST by FreeTally (How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
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To: MrB; DCBryan1
I second MrB. If the citizens dont carry then the cops dont carry. Maybe you can explain why a walking ego with lower that average IQ who cant hit the inside of a barn with their service weapons should be allowed anywhere near a crowded public place? (flamers: consult pay scales, wonderlic, and shooting statistics)
10 posted on 01/22/2003 9:18:17 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: DCBryan1
Please refresh me on the hierchy of citizens. I'm a little rusty.

Lets see:

1 -federal government elected official
2 -federal leo
3 -appointed federal official (judges)
4 - State elected officials
5 - state and local leo's
members of the bar
7-99 - yada yada yada
100- white, law-abiding privately employed males

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My point- Off duty cops have no more rights than any other citizen.

11 posted on 01/22/2003 9:24:18 AM PST by Triple
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To: Triple
I believe the judges are higher on your list - they aren't even subject to removal at the next election.
12 posted on 01/22/2003 9:27:17 AM PST by MrB
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To: MrB
Thanks. (I told you I was rusty.)
13 posted on 01/22/2003 9:28:53 AM PST by Triple
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To: DCBryan1
Mixed feelings. Sounds like the action of a typical gun ban advocate. On the other hand why should police officers be different? If I read the AG opinion correctly a citizen of Arkansas can ban police officers from carrying guns into his home.
14 posted on 01/22/2003 9:35:55 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: DCBryan1
The more law enforcement officers that are disarmed in crowd
situations the more powerful criminals can become.

Lets see, if peasants as one poster cited cant carry Guns then why should off duty cops.

Well the more badges and Guns in the crowd situations after 9-11 the better, is my take. If it was'nt for alot of Off Duty Cops and Fireman giving up their lives in New York and Oklahoma City, many lives would not be saved.

I would rather trust a licensed Gun in the Crowd than otherwise.

God Bless the Peace Officers and God Bless America!
Ops4
15 posted on 01/22/2003 9:36:48 AM PST by OPS4
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To: DCBryan1
They can't allow crazed psychos intent on blowing a large crowd away to be shot by an armed citizen, even if that citizen is a police officer. Seems like they are cooking up another Jonesboro, albeit in a auditorium this time.
16 posted on 01/22/2003 9:44:41 AM PST by Alpha One
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To: DCBryan1
"I am just not interested in having guns laying around," Marion said.

You will be the day some crooks tries to kill you for your purse.

17 posted on 01/22/2003 9:48:08 AM PST by copycat (Arbeit macht frei.)
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To: DCBryan1
The hypocrisy.....

"I’m not going anywhere without my weapon, personally," he I said. "If something happens, I want to do something about it because I’m a police officer citizen."

18 posted on 01/22/2003 10:11:32 AM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: FreePaul
If I read the AG opinion correctly a citizen of Arkansas can ban police officers from carrying guns into his home.

It said off-duty police officers, not officers on-duty.

19 posted on 01/22/2003 10:13:17 AM PST by FreeTally (How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
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To: DCBryan1
"I’m not going anywhere without my weapon, personally," he said. "If something happens, I want to do something about it because I’m a police officer."

Ya...never know when he might have to shoot somones dog.

20 posted on 01/22/2003 10:31:37 AM PST by antaresequity
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