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Honor Guardsman is fired for blessings
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 22 Jan 03 | David O'reilly

Posted on 01/22/2003 1:16:09 PM PST by FenianOfEire

As a military honor guardsman, Patrick Cubbage had a simple message to the families of deceased veterans at graveside services.

"God bless you and this family, and God bless the United States of America," he would say as he presented a folded flag to them.

Because of that, Cubbage was fired in October from his job at the Brig. Gen. William C. Doyle Veterans Memorial Cemetery in Burlington County, near McGuire Air Force Base.

He breached cemetery protocol, his supervisor said, by deviating from the script.

"No family member ever objected," Cubbage, 54, a Vietnam combat veteran, retired Philadelphia police officer, and former city bail commissioner, said in a recent interview at his Northeast Philadelphia home.

"They were always very grateful - and sometimes very moved. People would even grip my hand and say things like 'Thank you so much.' "

Cubbage said he found the blessing in training literature he got when he began working as a part-time guardsman at Doyle, making $16 an hour, in October 2001.

But Lt. Col. Roberta Niedt, spokeswoman for the New Jersey Department of Military and Veterans Affairs, said Doyle - the state's largest veterans cemetery - has a "standard phrase [for the flag presentation] for each service."

Cubbage was dismissed not for the blessing, Niedt said, but for departing from the standard presentation protocol.

Cubbage insisted, however, that he was operating within the rules for honor guards. Opening a slender pamphlet that he said the cemetery gave him when he started, he turned to a page topped by the words Flag Presentation Protocol.

After Taps, it explains, the honor guard folds an American flag into a triangle, and a guardsman then steps before the appropriate family member.

Depending on the branch of service, the presenter next is to say such words as: "This flag is presented on behalf of a grateful nation and the United States Army as a token of appreciation for your loved one's honorable and faithful service," and then to hand the flag to the deceased's kin.

"If the next of kin has expressed a religious preference or belief," the instructions continue, "add: 'God bless you and this family, and God bless the United States of America.' "

"It doesn't say, 'You may add ...,' " Cubbage, an evangelical Christian who attends Calvary Chapel in Northeast Philadelphia, said as he tapped sternly at the pamphlet. "And I said it only if the family had a chapel service or had clergy at the grave."

Although a part-time employee at Doyle, he said, he typically worked from 25 to 35 hours a week, and he estimated that he participated in about 2,000 burial ceremonies last year. "I probably said the blessing 500 times."

But two of his fellow honor guardsmen complained in October, he said, and on Oct. 16 Iven Dumas, the cemetery's honor guard coordinator, ordered him to stop the blessings.

He said he protested, noting, "It's right in the manual." Dumas replied that the blessing could offend Jews and Muslims, he said, and should be used only when next of kin notify the cemetery office that they want a blessing.

"Jews and Muslims believe in God," Cubbage said he replied.

Dumas, he said, responded by handing him a copy of state regulations prohibiting "harassment or hostile environments" in the workplace.

Dumas declined to be interviewed and referred inquiries to Niedt's office.

On Oct. 24, Joan L. Edwards, affirmative-action officer for the state Department of Military and Veterans Affairs, wrote to Dumas to clarify policy. Cubbage received a photocopy of the letter.

Government employees "must not engage in activities or expression that a reasonable observer would interpret as government endorsement ... of religion," she wrote.

Unless the next of kin expresses a religious preference "one way or another," she continued, "then, the protocol would be to omit the saying, 'God bless ...,' portion of the presentation. This is not optional."

Cubbage said he reluctantly stopped saying the blessing - until Oct. 31. That day, he said, "this funeral procession pulls in for a burial, and I see the 'fish' sign [a traditional symbol in Christianity] on the back of one of the cars."

"So, I start a conversation with the driver, who turns out to belong to Calvary Chapel. I asked him if the family would mind if I said the blessing. He said, 'Oh, they're very religious. I'm sure they'd welcome it.' "

The widow, who was in a wheelchair, bowed her head at the blessing, Cubbage recalled.

But one of the other guardsmen "practically ran to the office" to report him, he said.

He said Dumas called him into the office and demanded an explanation. He said he explained that a family friend had assured him they would welcome the blessing, but Dumas - citing Cubbage's "disregard for stated policy" - fired him that day.

"I was in shock. I'm still in shock," he said.

"I was proud to serve the veterans who have served us," said Cubbage, who in 2001 reenlisted in the New Jersey National Guard just so that he could be the first enlisted man to salute his son, Adam, when he became an Army officer.

Adam Cubbage is now a captain in the 108th Air Squadron - his father's unit in the Vietnam War.

"I just don't get it," Patrick Cubbage said of his firing. "When you give people that flag, you see them look into it and remember a whole time in their loved one's life. So why in God's name did they fire me? Because in God's name, they did fire me."


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1 posted on 01/22/2003 1:16:09 PM PST by FenianOfEire
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To: FenianOfEire
from a previous thread,

If anyone is interested in calling Mr. Dumbass (Iven Dumas) then here is a link to the contact page, http://www.state.nj.us/military/cemetery/general.html
2 posted on 01/22/2003 1:17:24 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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3 posted on 01/22/2003 1:19:33 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: FenianOfEire
This is the saddest thing. May the tattle tales rot in hell.
4 posted on 01/22/2003 1:28:03 PM PST by OldFriend
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To: PaulNYC; tsomer; Mixer; MattinNJ; OceanKing; TomT in NJ; Coleus; agrace; Alberta's Child; ...
The New Jersey National Guard's brass believes that Jews and Muslims don't believe in God? C'mon already, this is ridiculous.
5 posted on 01/22/2003 10:17:06 PM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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6 posted on 01/22/2003 10:20:48 PM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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To: FenianOfEire
"....If anyone is interested in calling Mr. Dumbass (Iven Dumas)....."

Yes. It looks like he has an appropriate last name.

7 posted on 01/22/2003 11:18:20 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: Coleus; FenianOfEire
Thanks for the ping Coleus....Bttt
8 posted on 01/23/2003 12:26:08 AM PST by firewalk
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To: FenianOfEire
Dumas replied that the blessing could offend Jews and Muslims

Who also believe in a God. This is rubbish. I posted my protest through that website to Mr Dumbas*

9 posted on 01/23/2003 8:52:04 AM PST by Terriergal ("It's for the common good dontcha know!")
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To: FenianOfEire
"I was proud to serve the veterans who have served us," said Cubbage, who in 2001 reenlisted in the New Jersey National Guard just so that he could be the first enlisted man to salute his son, Adam, when he became an Army officer.

Adam Cubbage is now a captain in the 108th Air Squadron - his father's unit in the Vietnam War.

Great end to the article.

10 posted on 01/23/2003 10:08:30 AM PST by agrace
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Thanks for the ping... passing it on..
11 posted on 01/23/2003 11:45:53 PM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: FenianOfEire
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To fight only the al-Qaida enemy is to miss the terrorist network operating within our own borders. Who are these traitors? Every rotten, radical left-winger in this country, that's who."
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12 posted on 01/23/2003 11:56:52 PM PST by ppaul
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To: FenianOfEire
Bump for outrage.

The Book of Romans says we are to obey our Government authority--but it says first we are to obey God Himself.

13 posted on 01/24/2003 12:16:27 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: davidosborne; All
Link to contact: Iven C. Dumas.....
14 posted on 01/24/2003 12:58:26 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: FenianOfEire
This is beyond words.
15 posted on 01/24/2003 1:06:37 AM PST by ShadowDancer
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To: ShadowDancer
Hours of Operation
Doyle Cemetery is open to visitors every day of the year:
Office is open from 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
The grounds are open from 8:00 a.m. to dusk.

Contacting Doyle Veterans Cemetery
By Phone: General Information, Grave Location and Interments 609-758-7250 or
Fax 609-758-0169.
By Mail: BG William C. Doyle Veterans Memorial Cemetery
350 Province line Road
Wrightstown, New Jersey 08562

Cemetery Staff
F. Joseph Geisert Engineer in Charge of Maintenance
Patricia Dugan Interment Supervisor
Iven C. Dumas Honor Guard Coordinator


16 posted on 01/24/2003 1:08:09 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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17 posted on 01/24/2003 1:40:12 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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E-mail recieved........... Keep up the GREAT work FREEPERS!!!


Thank you for your recent email.
I am in the office but cannot reply individually to the hundreds of
emails sent in response to my Jan. 22 article in The Philadelphia Inquirer
about Patrick Cubbage, who was dismissed as an honor guardsman for saying
"God bless you" during flag presentations. The overwhelming majority of
emails have voiced strong support for Mr. Cubbage.
Readers who wish to express their views directly to the New Jersey
Department of Military and Veterans' Affairs about this matter will find an
email form at the department's website:
http://www.state.nj.us/military/admin/main_contact.html

Thanks again for writing. The Inquirer will report on developments to this
story as they occur. I will attempt to respond to unrelated emails where
possible.

David O'Reilly
Religion Reporter
The Philadelphia Inquirer

18 posted on 01/24/2003 1:49:17 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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FYI: Gov. Office Phone#. 609-292-6000
19 posted on 01/24/2003 1:55:00 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne
Dear Veterans Affairs Department,

could you please forward the following inquiry to Iven C. Dumas? Thank you in advance.
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Dear Mr Dumas,

I am an occasional writer and commentator based in Sydney, Australia. Recently I read (on the Internet) an account of your dismissal of Patrick Cubbage. Abusing your commission to harass a gentle Christian in such a PC manner is of course a very newsworthy story which I am most interested in covering for the News Report, a daily online newsletter here. Could you please let me know your side of the story, and whether you could supply a photograph of yourself? My deadline is Monday PM your time.

Thank you
Yours faithfully
Byron Stander
Byron_Stander@hotmail.com

20 posted on 01/24/2003 3:01:05 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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