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Russia and China join forces to oppose war
The Times ^ | February 28, 2003 | Oliver August and Robin Shepherd

Posted on 02/27/2003 3:28:53 PM PST by MadIvan

RUSSIA and China stepped up their opposition to war in Iraq yesterday with a demand for a diplomatic solution. The two UN veto-bearing nations were, however, careful to couch a joint statement in terms that would not cause immediate offence to Washington.

A joint statement issued in Beijing said that both countries “confirm their firm resolution to continue to promote a peaceful settlement of the problem of Iraq by all possible means believing that war can and must be avoided”.

Both have strong reasons to oppose American policy; the Russians because they fear the loss of valuable oil-related contracts in Iraq and China because it fears that it might one day become the target of a pro-active world policeman. Equally, neither can afford to make an enemy of the US.

Beijing signalled its opposition to a second UN resolution after a visit by Igor Ivanov, the Russian Foreign Minister. The Chinese leadership also played host to Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, but the Russian carried off the bigger prize and Mr Powell left empty-handed Beijing called for measures to avoid war in Iraq and insisted on resolving “the Iraqi crisis through political and diplomatic means”.

Mr Powell had held talks with Chinese leaders on Monday, hoping to convince them to come out in favour of strong action on Iraq through the UN. In recent weeks, Beijing had been reluctant to side with the anti-war camp, temporarily fostering US hopes of Chinese support.

China has long voiced its opposition to American military interventions overseas. Yet Beijing is unlikely to desert Washington completely. Its economic and diplomatic relationship with the US is too important for the Chinese leadership to risk a serious rift.

China is utterly dependent on its $100 billion exports to the US. Nor would it want to be excluded from cheap Iraqi oil after the conclusion of a war. Beijing may, therefore, follow Russia’s lead in the UN Security Council but only as long as its position does not seriously harm America.

China is expected to use its veto in the council only if failure of a US resolution is a foregone conclusion, thus protecting itself from Washington’s wrath. The likeliest outcome is now a Chinese abstention.

In talks with Jacques Chirac, the French President, earlier in the month, President Putin for the first and, so far, only time said that Russia had used its veto in the past and might use it again.

In a telephone call to President Bush, the Russian leader appeared, however, to confirm that he would not embarrass Mr Bush when the two men agreed to work towards a solution to the Iraq crisis taking into account “the interests of the international community”.

“The unity of the United Nations means too much to Russia and Putin is not interested in testing his relationship with Bush,” said the Vremya Novostei newspaper.

Alexei Malashenko of the Institute of Foreign Relations at the Russian Foreign Ministry said that Russia would not use its veto because Russia had invested too much in its new friendship with the US.

Professor Malashenko said: “Russia has a dual policy. They will not use their right of veto but they will continue to say they are disappointed at US policy.”

He said Russia’s public opposition to war with Iraq was partly aimed at pacifying opinion in the Muslim world: “There are also 20 million Muslims in Russia. But mainly, Russia does not want to be associated with US policy in the Muslim world.”

Western diplomats in Moscow also thought it unlikely that Russia would use its veto at the Security Council. “Look closely at the wording of the recent statement from Ivanov. They always leave a get-out clause in there somewhere allowing them to blame Iraq if war comes,” said one diplomat.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; bush; china; iraq; putin; russia; saddam; uk; us; warlist; zemin
If China can be strong-armed into voting in favour, and this is possible, I believe that Russia will fall into line. Let France dangle out on its own.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 02/27/2003 3:28:53 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: dixiechick2000; UofORepublican; kayak; LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR; keats5; Don'tMessWithTexas; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 02/27/2003 3:29:25 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
"....But mainly, Russia does not want to be associated with US policy in the Muslim world."

Too late. The Russians are already a major target of the Islamists, and no attempt to distance themselves from us will make a bit of difference.

3 posted on 02/27/2003 3:35:04 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: MadIvan
This sucks! I am tired of these cowardly countries. Why is Bush putting himself and us thru this? First Canada not sending any troops, then Mexico sucking up to Canada - now Russia and China. One day they are with us - the next day they are against us. Bush should tell them all to shove it where the sun don't shine!
4 posted on 02/27/2003 3:35:48 PM PST by areafiftyone (The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
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To: areafiftyone
This sucks! I am tired of these cowardly countries. Why is Bush putting himself and us thru this?

He chose Powell's plan from the beginning (a huge mistake), and now he has no choice but to see it through. It's no coincidence that Bush's approval ratings have plummetted 10% in 2 months.....to pre-9/11 levels.

5 posted on 02/27/2003 3:38:33 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: MadIvan
I hate to be pessimistic, but wouldn't it be interesting if Bush just announced he was about to recall all US forces involved in UN/multilateral related activities tomorrow and said, "I've seen the ways of the anti-war protesters. The US is one big militaristic machine. From now on, we will be happy to watch the peace-loving countries of the world maintain international security."

I wonder who would be first to step up and enforce the no-fly zones, the DMZ, etc.
6 posted on 02/27/2003 3:43:19 PM PST by JmyBryan
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7 posted on 02/27/2003 4:04:37 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: MadIvan
High Noon is one of my favorite movies. America is being treated like Gary Cooper's character, Will Kane. At least, Thank God, Great Britain is NOT Harvey Pell, the deputy that deserted his partner when times got hot.
Screw the commies.
God bless America.
Long Live the Queen.

p.s. Let's Roll!
8 posted on 02/27/2003 4:30:15 PM PST by Spruce
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To: MadIvan

Considering history, I won't be holding my breath on Russia coming along.

Russia and Saddam will be the biggest loosers in freeing the people of Iraq and they need lots of cold hard cash, and they are the one that Saddam owes the most.

9 posted on 02/27/2003 7:18:19 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: MadIvan
Replace the word "WAR" with the word "REGIME CHANGE" and the real meaning beomces clearer.

This is about those who want Saddam to stay and those who want him to go.

10 posted on 02/27/2003 10:15:02 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: areafiftyone
Even Rush is getting fed up!
11 posted on 02/27/2003 10:17:28 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Spruce
"HIGH NOON" .... VERY GOOD ANALOGY!!!
12 posted on 02/27/2003 10:17:29 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: MadIvan
Ivan are you Russian dude if you are thanks for the pro-India remarks Russian comrade.I like Russian people you are a cool natinality God bless Russia
13 posted on 03/01/2003 7:34:43 PM PST by ditchman345
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To: MadIvan
please reply
14 posted on 03/02/2003 8:05:23 AM PST by ditchman345
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To: MadIvan
But, but, but, Russia and China are our friends...they would never do anything to harm our interests. </naive sarcasm off
15 posted on 03/02/2003 8:06:17 AM PST by Beck_isright (going to war without the French is like duck hunting without an accordian)
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To: ditchman345
I'm not Russian. I'm British.

Regards, Ivan

16 posted on 03/02/2003 8:06:54 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
But you still think India is cool right
17 posted on 03/03/2003 7:17:33 AM PST by ditchman345 (AmericaRocks)
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