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An Introduction to Zero-Point Energy
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Posted on 02/28/2003 2:59:02 PM PST by sourcery
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posted on
02/28/2003 2:59:02 PM PST
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sourcery
To: Dark Wing
ping
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posted on
02/28/2003 2:59:59 PM PST
by
Thud
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; A tall man in a cowboy hat
FYI
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02/28/2003 3:00:16 PM PST
by
sourcery
(The Oracle on Mount Doom)
To: *RealScience; *Space
To: sourcery
If I'm reading this right, does this mean that classical physicists were right about the ether all along?
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02/28/2003 3:07:36 PM PST
by
inquest
To: inquest
does this mean that classical physicists were right about the ether all along?No, for several reasons. One is that ZPE does not establish an absolute frame of reference (which was the primay reason for assumming the existence of an ether.) Another is that an "ether" in which "things" exist and move is inherently a dualist model of reality, whereas modern physics is based on fundamental unification of forces, particles and geometry. Finally, ZPE is not a "medium" or "transport substrate" for wave propagation, which was the key characteristic of the hypothetical "ether."
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02/28/2003 3:15:48 PM PST
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sourcery
(The Oracle on Mount Doom)
To: sourcery
Bump.
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02/28/2003 3:20:50 PM PST
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jimt
To: blam; PatrickHenry
ping
This is a very impressive group. A collaboration of researchers from Cal Tech, MIT, Oak Ridge, Stanford, Princeton and others.
http://www.calphysics.org/aboutcipa.html
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The California Institute for Physics and Astrophysics (CIPA) is dedicated to exploring fundamental problems in physics (e.g. gravitation, inertia, the nature of mass) as well as very-long range technological possibilities that may emerge from the properties of the quantum vacuum.
To: sourcery
The propellor or the jet engine of an aircraft push air backwards to propel the aircraft forward. A ship or boat propellor does the same thing with water. On Earth there is always air or water available to push against. Was this absurd statement really written by someone with a physics background?
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02/28/2003 3:31:57 PM PST
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cinFLA
To: cinFLA
Was this absurd statement really written by someone with a physics background? How is this statement absurd? It seems perfectly true.
To: sourcery
bump for later read
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posted on
02/28/2003 3:33:56 PM PST
by
Captain Beyond
(The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
To: sourcery
There's no point to it.
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posted on
02/28/2003 3:35:31 PM PST
by
Consort
To: RightWhale
How is this statement absurd? It seems perfectly true. Go check your physics for "On Earth there is always air or water available to push against." This is a common misconception by the masses.
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posted on
02/28/2003 3:36:51 PM PST
by
cinFLA
To: cinFLA
Um, so propellor-driven locomation would actually work in a perfect vacuum?
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posted on
02/28/2003 3:37:03 PM PST
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sourcery
(The Oracle on Mount Doom)
To: sourcery
Um, so propellor-driven locomation would actually work in a perfect vacuum? Where did you come up with that outrageous conclusion?
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posted on
02/28/2003 3:37:58 PM PST
by
cinFLA
To: Consort
There's no point to it.Ok. What's your point?
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posted on
02/28/2003 3:38:02 PM PST
by
sourcery
(The Oracle on Mount Doom)
To: cinFLA
Where did you come up with that outrageous conclusion?It seemed to be the best interpretation of the point of your question. If that is not what you meant, perhaps you could clarify?
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posted on
02/28/2003 3:39:36 PM PST
by
sourcery
(The Oracle on Mount Doom)
To: cinFLA
Was this absurd statement really written by someone with a physics background?
I was thinking the exact same thing as I read the article.
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posted on
02/28/2003 3:39:36 PM PST
by
PatriotGames
(AOOHGA! AOOHGA! CLEAR THE BRIDGE! DIVE! DIVE! WHOOSH!)
To: RightWhale; cinFLA
If I recall some high-school physics (a VERY long time ago), planes move forward by a combination of the air being pushed rearward, but also by the partial vacuum created in front of the motor that results when the air is being pushed backwards.
I could be wrong, but that is what I remember from high school.
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posted on
02/28/2003 3:40:29 PM PST
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: cinFLA
Go check your physics for "On Earth there is always air or water available to push against." Just took a survey out the window, and it appears there is air out there and sometimes water. What is the problem, aside from earth should be lowercase?
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