U.S. EBay Seller Refuses Canucks (France, Mexico, Germany too)

"You Canadians should get a PM with a grain of sense, honor, decency, judgment, bravery, and character before you come WHINING to us.

WE Americans had a president that had no honor, decency, judgement, character etc. We here on this thread didn't vote him in, but we had him none the less. He did more to put the entire world at odds than most people, and probably aided in the horrors that led to this war ----- which effects most countries. Some countries should have whined at us! Our Canadian Freeper friends, and our Canadian FreeDominion friends commiserated with us at the time and rejoiced with us when he finally left.

I don't like generalizing and clumping all in a negative way when it isn't deserved. IMMHO.

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Collateral damage.

The seller on eBay has the right to decide whether or not to sell to foreign bidders, as long as any restrictions are clearly stated in the auction description. Unfortunately, eBay is coming under increasing pressure from the political correctness crowd, limiting what can be listed, and even what words can be used to describe them. It is only a matter of time before eBay will be forced by these pressure groups to limit the sellers "right to choose" where they ship their merchandise.

Then millions of Americans will simply refuse to ship internationally period, which will cost eBay MILLIONS in fees. Except for a couple of countries, most of eBay's "international" sites are actually just tiny categories of the regular US site. Go check out "eBay New Zealand" sometime, for example, and see how many items are actually for sale FROM NZ instead of merely being available TO NZ. It's only a few hundred.

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As long as the terms were announced up front, I have no problem with it. And free trade is between companies mutually seeking to do business. No one is forced to trade with anyone. That would be unAmerican, but not unCanadian, eh?

A. As far as Clinton, you're totally preaching to the choir. I absolutely and fully blame the American people. That he was elected once is to our shame. That he was elected twice, to our evelasting disgrace.

B. You totally miss the point, or at least my point. Clinton didn't diss and abuse and boss the Canadians around. Canada has betrayed our friendship, and joined France in cowardly shame. If they don't like the onus, let them work as hard as we did to express their disgust and to see him OUT of office.

Dan

have you ever bought a computer or a stereo? most of these guys are a little shady...

these compatlanta guys are just trying to make a buck off the war in iraq... real men are over there fighting to make the world safe and these assholes are using it for a little free publicity to sell more computers

and it's not up to the trader to decide who he does business with. does atlanta still have those whites only lunch counters?

international trade is a power of the national government.. same goes for canada. we recognize one another as equal trading partners thru free trade agreement. we also have laws protecting the property rights of all aliens... all normal countries do.. part of developing credibility as a respectable trading country

canadians love to hate their prime minister... but that's no call to start snatching at our provinces

I was just thinking that it would be nice to no longer need a passport to get to Banff.

and it's not up to the trader to decide who he does business with

You are out of your mind.

websthes signed up 2003-03-26.

I was probably reacting to your big bold print as much as anything. I thought it was an over-reaction to Grig's comment.

But other than that, I hear what you are saying. Clinton's own sense of inate condescending superiority didn't allow dissing and abusing. The false sense of superiority from Cretien, the disgusting comments from that Canadian MP and the Minister show just how unsure of themselves they are. Cretien's behavior is abominable, and as you said -- cowardly. What they have said and done have put 'cracks in the china' that will always be there.

There are several current threads about Canada and their stance. One about Tory PM Mulroney is worth checking. In another, the comments by Amb.Cellucci, to a business group, is to the point. Another one from a Socialist, panning the US, is good for laughs!

I've noticed many comments from Canadians,in these and other threads, that there is unrest with the gov't. Perhaps things are looking up - toward voting these people out? Hope so!

That'd be great. From my very limited knowledge, I can imagine how frustrating it must be to be any kind of a conservative, let alone a Christian conservative, living in and patriotically loving Canada.

It was my love for my country (and my God) that required my condemning stance on Clinton's actions and policies.

Dan

"If you support the US then make some noise. "

I will be on Parliment Hill at noon on Saturday doing just that with many other Canadians. Don't expect the media to cover it much though.

"Let them pressure the socialist anti-american Chretin to take the opportunity to keep his mouth closed."

You people have had so much more freedom for so long you don't know what it's like to live without it. Be glad for that and have pity on those who are not so blessed.

The PM has near total power up here. He appoints his friends and supporters to powerfull positions (like the head of the CBC, the Bank of Canada, Senators, Supreme Court jugdes etc.) with nearly NO check or balance. Heck, they have the power to override the constitution if they want to bad enough.

Canadians are so beaten down and feel so powerless that most of them are just waiting around for the next election. They think that's the only chance they have to do something that acrually makes a difference. We can't force this clown out no matter how much we would like to.

To force an election, he would have to have several of his own MP's revolt against him in a non-confidence vote and that would be the end of their political life. They need the PM to approve their running for office in the next election, and for most of them politics is all they know. The PM's power over the RCMP has kept him out of legal trouble several times.

That's not an excuse, it's just the reality of the situation. Political activism that doesn't have the governments blessing has been nearly stamped out and effectivly discouraged, plus it is very much against Canadian culture to be so assertive in the first place.

In light of that, there still is vocal dissent and it's growing. I'm planning something that should add significant fuel to the fire as well. If you could hear the outrage and frustration of people up here...

Ditto.

You are talking to one now.

There is a rally in support of the USA to be on Parliment Hill on Saturday at noon too.

Shell turns off Nigerian oil output

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Wednesday, Mar 26, 2003,Page 12
Crude conflicts
* Nigeria is the fifth-biggest oil exporter to the US.
* Shell, ChevronTexaco and Total Fina Elf SA of France have reduced output by 817,500 barrels a day, or 37 percent of Nigeria's production, last month.

* Crude oil rose, adding to its biggest gain in 15 months yesterday.

Royal Dutch/Shell Group and ChevronTexaco Corp shut down more than a third of Nigeria's oil production because of clashes between soldiers and Ijaw militants, adding to investor concern about world supplies.

Shell, Europe's largest oil company, ChevronTexaco, the second-largest US oil company, and Total Fina Elf SA of France have reduced output by 817,500 barrels a day, or 37 percent of Nigeria's production, last month. Nigeria is the fifth-biggest oil exporter to the US.

The violence, sparked by demands from the Ijaw minority for greater political representation, adds to pressure on oil supplies threatened by the US-led attack on Iraq, the Middle East's third-largest producer, and reduced shipments from Venezuela after a nationwide strike.

Crude oil in London rose as much as 6.2 percent, its biggest gain since April 2002.

"We would not count Nigerian production as being a secure supply source for a while to come," said Paul Horsnell, head of energy research at JP Morgan Chase & Co.

Crude oil rose, adding to its biggest gain in 15 months yesterday, as resistance to a US-led invasion of Iraq raised concern that its oil will be kept off the market longer than expected.

Crude oil for May delivery rose as much as US$0.39, or 1.4 percent, to US$29.05 a barrel in after-hours electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Oil traded at US$29 a barrel at 12:50pm Singapore time.

Shell has evacuated workers from the southern swamps of the western Niger River delta and shut down about 320,000 barrels a day in its western division, spokesman Simon Buerk said. An additional 50,000 barrels of production was stopped in the eastern division.

On Friday, Shell declared force majeure, a legal principle that allows it to miss contractual obligations because of circumstances beyond its control, on exports from its Bonny and Forcados terminals, partly because of the unrest.

Shell Petroleum Development Co, a joint venture with Nigeria's state-run oil company, normally produces about 800,000 barrels a day of low-sulfur crude, a type of oil that is easily converted into fuels such as gasoline. The government owns 55 percent of the venture, Shell 30 percent, Total 10 percent and Eni SpA 5 percent.

ChevronTexaco has shut down daily production of 440,000 barrels, the company said in a statement. Relocating workers from the Escravos terminal and related offshore platforms also stopped daily production of 87 million cubic meters of natural gas.

Two soldiers and three Nigerian workers were killed as Total evacuated staff from oil installations Friday and Saturday, said Paul Floren, a spokesman for Europe's third-largest oil company.

Total has reduced production by 7,500 barrels a day.

Total pumped the equivalent of 174,000 barrels of oil a day in Nigeria in 2001.

Exxon Mobil Corp, the world's largest publicly traded oil company, said its Nigerian oil and gas output hasn't been affected, spokeswoman Marcia Zelinsky. All of the Irving, Texas-based company's Nigerian production is offshore, she said.

"JoAnn Dupont, a customer service representative with eBay vendor IkeSound.com of Florida, said her company's policy of shipping to Canada and other countries has not changed as a result of the war."

Apparently,CompAtlanta feels integrity is more important than making money.

indeed... debate can hardly flourish without the blessing of the government... but this isn't limited to the chretien regime but to canadian parliamentary government in general. and i got a shudder when i saw mulroney's name mentioned in a post. just because we haven't got any viable national leader in the current opposition shouldn't spark some sort of nostalgia for mulroney and the easy way he got on with the americans. let's remember it was his determination to make a name for himself reshaping the constitution that led to the undoing of the conservative party. the departure of bouchard and the quebec caucus and western conservatives making their own party is thanks to chaotic failure of mulroney's pledge to get quebec's signature on the constitution.

After the Trudeau charter came in effect in 1982-84, the Mulroney conservative government was plagued by various special interest groups demanding the rights they felt were due under the new Charter of Rights. This was exasperated by the previous liberal regime's inaugural funding of the court challenges program which financed legal action seeking legal remedy under the new Charter or Rights and Freedoms.

In the new charter, a general equality clause (s. 15) and a more specific passage (28) for womens equality, guaranteed equal rights for women... the fabled "ERA". NAC, a national coalition of womens groups took this to heart and pressured the mulroney regime on many fronts to see that this promise of equality was carried out in canadian society.

In 1984, NAC had already sponsored a nationally televised leaders debate on womens issues attended by all 3 major parties at the time, including the Conservatives. Mulroney won that election with his promise of canadian unity. But rather than deal with NAC on womens issues, the mulroney government used public money to prop up their REAL women, an organization founded in 1984 as an opposition front to all feminist demands.

Mulroney had good reason to deal harshly with NAC. NAC helped disturb Mulroney's pledge to bring quebec into the canadian constitution. Like other minority groups, NAC recognized that the proposed constitutional decentralization envisioned in the charlottetown accord would not adequately replace the legal equality of the Charter.

This was the downfall of mulroney's original promise of political unity. He had promised to entice Quebec to sign the canadian constitution with promises of provincial rights. But it was seen as a ruse to washing his hands of the charter of rights by decentralizing all the political powers necessary to upholding said rights

and i don't want to go into mulroney's meddling of the senate except to remind everyone of how he also exploited the constitution to enlarge the senate... if only to appoint enough followers to get passage of his national sales tax

and Mulroney did eventually get the job done if not by tearing apart the provinces then by putting them all under a new constitution of free trade with the americans. sooner or later provincial rights will prevail in putting our trade with the united states before the national government mission of holding together the seams of the welfare state and protecting minorities. once provincial markets are penetrated by american enterprise free trade obligations will eliminate any patronage the government had as arbitrer of the national social welfare scheme

i agree that the canadian constitution lacks any restraints on prime ministerial power. but this isn't limited to any particular regime and wasn't corrected by any election. the opposition must know by now that the only safe place in government is the leaders chair. chretien made this abundantly clear when he ushered the exit of the more popular, paul martin. nor would i hold my breath waiting for any party to gain power solely with the promise of reforming the office of prime minister.. no pun intended. there are plenty of canadians satisfied with middle of the road government and just as many who need to be lured with specific promises. trudeau guaranteed the liberals many elections with his charter promising canadians all the things that only the liberals can provide.

conservatives need to stop factionalizing amongst themselves and come to realize what the liberals have long understood about party government. they keep their fighting behind caucus doors and their platform open to anybody that wants to vote. The two regional factions of the conservative party on the other hand, agree on the most important principle to both, provincial rights. but they avoid one another on the most trivial issues of their respective prejudices. that westerners dislike speaking french and that quebecers would just as soon let westerners have their way if they could also manage their own affairs is so obvious.

why do both parties insist on making a national platform out of purely regional issues they as a national government would have no interest in pursuing? legislating national bilingualism is a policy of the liberals.. not the reform nor the bloc. the bloc wants a quebec where french is spoken and heard and the reform wants an alberta where french is not imposed, which is fine with the bloc. there is of course the occasional francophone in alberta who needs to exercise linguistic rights... but this is a wedge of the liberals to divide conservatives by forcing them to question their fundamental values over trivial matters. essentially the two camps are quarelling over which liberal policies they dislike... a loser complex from spending too much time in opposition

westerners should have learned by now that decentralization cannot be accomoplished at the provincial level as much as it should be sinking in with the bloc... look at quebec's two failures. so instead of continually supporting reform as some sort of outlet for western political narcicists to harp on about how terrific calgary is, send the message east that there is still interest in a national conservative party in the opposition.