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“Islamic Revivalist” (A "Follow-up" To NYT Article "The Philosopher of Islamic Terror")
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| unpublished (written in Spring 2002)
| Pyro7480
Posted on 03/26/2003 7:52:51 AM PST by Pyro7480
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What ideas can be used to fight these people. What ideas will allow them to exist in peace -- with anyone. Most wars in the world involve Muslims. What part of the ideas they hold are the most dangerous to our way of life -- to their way of life? Is compromise possible? Do you feel Iran is different and if so, why?
With the Russians we would sit down and push pawn to King four - they would respond with pawn to King four... While seeming different, both sides were chess players. With Iraq, we push pawn to king four, and they piss in the corner, then hit the chess board with an ax. Please share your insight.
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posted on
03/26/2003 9:13:52 PM PST
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GOPJ
To: joesnuffy
To give the wahhabi lobby -CAIR access to the pockets of our politicans is also cultural suicide imo..
bump
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posted on
03/26/2003 9:18:57 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(looks like the old days around this here thread and I see you have it under control... (:>))
To: Pyro7480
Bump for later.
Thanks for the ping.
To: Pyro7480
Excellent paper! Thanks for posting it!
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posted on
03/27/2003 2:32:58 AM PST
by
Dajjal
To: GOPJ
With the Russians we would sit down and push pawn to King four - they would respond with pawn to King four... While seeming different, both sides were chess players. With Iraq, we push pawn to king four, and they piss in the corner, then hit the chess board with an ax. Please share your insight.>>
FundaMental Muslims have one attribute the Russians did not. And they have a glaring weakness.
What deterred the Soviets was that they were ATHEISTS. Start a major war, and die, and go to the Big Inky. No 72 virgins for THEM; they die, they're dead, end of story. While the Russians et al could fight like tigers and even suicidally, they fought that way in defense of RODINA-MAT ('the Motherland,' Russia) and not of Soviet Socialism. Not so, alas, islamonazis. BUT....
Their weakness, one we must exploit, is their belief that EVERYTHING IS FIXED AND YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT (to quote a line from Jesus Christ Superstar, a show that would give your friendly neighborhood Islamonut a case of the hives). They--by whom I mean fundamentalists, NOT, say, Sufi muslims--are trapped in the amber of "Inshall'ah": Everything that happens, down to the smallest dropping of a pencil off of the edge of a table, is God's Will.
We are not so bound by Fate. We, being Western and both Christian and Scientific, believe in free will, that what occurrs is the result of decisions made by us, even down to the smallest (like putting a pencil too close to the edge of a table). Furthermore, as Christians, we believe, not in Fate, but in Providence, in a loving and personal God who gives a little nudge for those whom He favors (although that 'nudge' can sometimes feel like a kick in the ass!).
Accordingly, we have greater imagination and are freer to do the unexpected because we are not locked into a Fate that will determine everything.
This also means that, when Muslims get their asses kicked, in Combat or elsewhere, they are trapped in the amber of inshall'ah. We can use that very intelligently in our favor when the time comes to govern these folks. They are very, very, very submissive to overwhelming firepower. As we will discover.
"The German is either at your throat or at your feet," said Churchill. So the Arabs.
One thing about the amber of inshall'ah, however. It makes them submissive, but gives them great strength and endurance in the face of deprivation and suffering. Considering that the vast majority of their history has been spent in desert and abject poverty, this should be no surprise.
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posted on
03/27/2003 4:19:57 AM PST
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homeagain balkansvet
(Sayyed Qutb imagined a world in which I would die rather than live. Victory Now.)
To: knews_hound
BTTT
To: homeagain balkansvet
Back at ya
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posted on
03/27/2003 7:11:27 PM PST
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knews_hound
(Anyone else play Day of Defeat?)
To: homeagain balkansvet
You're saying they're determinists ala BF Skinner...except they think EVERYTHING that happens is God's will? Wouldn't that tend to kill personal ambition and correction. I mean, do they take personal responsibility for anything, or is it just "God's will" when things go awry. Does free will exist in Islam??
To: azjatojarhd1ea
You're saying they're determinists ala BF Skinner...except they think EVERYTHING that happens is God's will? Wouldn't that tend to kill personal ambition and correction. I mean, do they take personal responsibility for anything, or is it just "God's will" when things go awry. >>
When things go right, it's their doing AND 'inshallah'. When things go wrong, 'inshallah.'
Does free will exist in Islam??>>>
Depends on what sect but in essence.... no. Neither does the Fall of Man. The concept of 'fallenness' is alien to Islam.
"There is no greater salve for the broken of heart or broken of head than a big slug of 'Thy Will Be Done.'" -- Stephen King, THE STAND
To: Pyro7480
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04/03/2003 4:05:02 PM PST
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Stultis
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07/23/2004 1:56:39 PM PDT
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knews_hound
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