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U.S. Nuke Find Claim in Iraq Critiqued
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 4/10/03 | William J. Kole

Posted on 04/10/2003 7:29:51 PM PDT by marshmallow

VIENNA, Austria - American troops who suggested they uncovered evidence of an active nuclear weapons program in Iraq (news - web sites) unwittingly may have stumbled across known stocks of low-grade uranium, officials said Thursday. They said the U.S. troops may have broken U.N. seals meant to keep control of the radioactive material.

Leaders of a U.S. Marine Corps combat engineering unit claimed earlier this week to have found an underground network of laboratories, warehouses and bombproof offices beneath the closely monitored Tuwaitha nuclear research center just south of Baghdad.

The Marines said they discovered 14 buildings at the site which emitted unusually high levels of radiation, and that a search of one building revealed "many, many drums" containing highly radioactive material. If documented, such a discovery could bolster Bush administration claims that Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was trying to develop nuclear weaponry.

Lt. Cmdr. Charles Owens, a spokesman for the U.S. Central Command, said officials there have not heard anything through military channels about a Marine inspection at Tuwaitha.

The Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency, which has inspected the Tuwaitha nuclear complex at least two dozen times and maintains a thick dossier on the site, had no immediate comment.

But an expert familiar with U.N. nuclear inspections told The Associated Press that it was implausible to believe that U.S. forces had uncovered anything new at the site. Instead, the official said, the Marines apparently broke U.N. seals designed to ensure the materials aren't diverted for weapons use — or end up in the wrong hands.

"What happened apparently was that they broke IAEA seals, which is very unfortunate because those seals are integral to ensuring that nuclear material doesn't get diverted," the expert said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Army Times, meanwhile, reported that troops with the 101st Airborne Division have unearthed 11 shipping containers, filled with sophisticated lab equipment, buried at a chemical plant in Karbala. It said the equipment's value and evidence that some of it may have been smuggled into Iraq raised suspicions that the facility had been used to manufacture chemical weapons.

U.N. arms inspectors visited a facility in the immediate vicinity of the chemical plant Feb. 23, but did not find the buried equipment. Officials at the U.S. Central Command suggested that no conclusions should be drawn.

Several tons of low-grade uranium has been stored at Tuwaitha, Iraq's principle nuclear research center and a site that has been under IAEA safeguards for years, the official said. The Iraqis were allowed to keep the material because it was unfit for weapons use without costly and time-consuming enrichment.

Tuwaitha contains 1.8 tons of low-grade enriched uranium and several tons of natural and depleted uranium.

The uranium was inspected by the U.N. nuclear agency twice a year and was kept under IAEA seal — at least until early this week, when the Marines seized control of the site.

The U.N. nuclear agency's inspectors have visited Tuwaitha about two dozen times, including a dozen checks carried out since December, most recently on Feb. 6. It was among the first sites that IAEA inspectors sought out after the resumption of inspections on Nov. 27 after a nearly four-year break.

On at least one occasion, inspectors with special mountaineering training went underground there to have a look around, according to IAEA documents.

David Kay, a former IAEA chief nuclear inspector, said Thursday that the teams he oversaw after the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites) never found an underground site at Tuwaitha despite persistent rumors.

"But underground facilities by definition are very hard to detect," he said. "When you inspect a place so often, you get overconfident about what you know. It would have been very easy for the inspectors to explain away any excessive radiation at Tuwaitha. The Iraqis could have hidden something clandestine in plain sight."

American intelligence analysts said before the U.S.-led campaign began that new structures photographed at Tuwaitha might indicate a revival of weapons work. IAEA inspectors checked but found nothing.

The Tuwaitha complex, run by the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission on a bend in the Tigris River about 18 miles south of Baghdad, was the heart of Saddam's former nuclear program and was involved in the final design of a nuclear bomb before Iraq's nuclear program was destroyed by U.N. teams after the 1991 Gulf War.

The IAEA, charged with the hunt for evidence of a nuclear program in Iraq, told the Security Council just before the war that it had uncovered no firm evidence that Saddam was renewing efforts to add nuclear weapons to his arsenal.

IAEA Director-General Mohamed ElBaradei, clearly wary of any coalition claims, said this week that any alleged discoveries of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq would have to be verified by U.N. inspectors "to generate the required credibility."

ElBaradei said the inspectors should return as soon as possible, subject to Security Council guidance, to resume their search for banned arms


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1 posted on 04/10/2003 7:29:52 PM PDT by marshmallow
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3 posted on 04/10/2003 7:36:31 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: walkingman
Sounds to me like someone's trying to cover their ass and explain away what our troops found. Radiation? what radiation?
4 posted on 04/10/2003 7:36:35 PM PDT by Anotherpundit
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To: marshmallow
"ElBaradei said the inspectors should return as soon as possible, subject to Security Council guidance, to resume their search for banned arms"

...return as soon as possible ... subject to Security Council cover up, er guidance..."

Not No, but HELL NO!
5 posted on 04/10/2003 7:39:32 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: marshmallow
this isn't a smoking gun for the same reason the artillery shells weren't.

The UN had already seized and sealed it years ago

6 posted on 04/10/2003 7:41:13 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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To: marshmallow
I'm really F'n tired of the UN.
7 posted on 04/10/2003 7:42:48 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: marshmallow
"But an expert familiar with U.N. nuclear inspections told The Associated Press that it was implausible to believe that U.S. forces had uncovered anything new at the site. Instead, the official said, the Marines apparently broke U.N. seals designed to ensure the materials aren't diverted for weapons use — or end up in the wrong hands."

Ah... more 'experts'. I tell ya folks, that word should raise a red flag every time you read it unless there's an actual qualification for their expertise (aka, a CURRENT general, not a retired one).
8 posted on 04/10/2003 7:44:54 PM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS!)
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To: marshmallow
"Instead, the official said, the Marines apparently broke U.N. seals designed to ensure the materials aren't diverted for weapons use — or end up in the wrong hands."

Okay, here's my problem with this. If these "seals" were so great, why is it that our Marines had no problem supposedly breaking them? Sorry, but sealing it up isn't a comfort to me. Sounds like a load of crap to me.
9 posted on 04/10/2003 7:45:10 PM PDT by RaiderRose
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To: Let's Roll
Let him return, please!

And since he's so convinced there's nothing radioactive there, encourage him to inspect wherever he likes, without a protective suit.

10 posted on 04/10/2003 7:46:56 PM PDT by TheHeterodoxConservative
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To: marshmallow
I'm no nuclear scientist but it sure seems to me that this stuff would be a great source for dirty bombs. I guess the UN had Saddam's word that he would always use this nuke 'waste' for only peaceful purposes....
11 posted on 04/10/2003 7:50:48 PM PDT by telebob
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To: RaiderRose
I think the purpose of seals was merely to ensure that the things had not been opened, not to physically prevent the opening.

I don't trust the UN either, but I do trust Jed Babbin:

The news that the Marines discovered Saddam's nuclear weapons--including weapons grade plutonium--under the old nuke site at al-Tuwaitha seems too good to be true. Like most things that do, it probably is. Dr. Khidir Hamza was the head of Saddam's nuclear weapons program for nearly two decades. He told me today that he's very skeptical. If he is, so am I.

Dr. Hamza worked at al-Tuwaitha for twenty-four years. The site, very close to the Tigris River, has a very high water table, making underground construction very hard, but not impossible. When you dig you get a well not a tunnel. When Dr. Hamza left there in 1994 no massive tunnel complex existed. It is possible that Saddam built a massive underground site for nuclear weapons development since then, but probably not at that site. Saddam is (was?) too clever to have undertaken such a project in a spot that is so closely watched. A big dig like the one required for such a big project would, as Dr. Hamza said, almost certainly have been detected by satellites or even by the U.N. inspectors who were very active there.

Dr. Hamza--the only guy I know who has had eyeball-to-eyeball and nose-to-nose contact with Saddam--doesn't believe the Marines found anything more than what may have been left behind by the U.N. inspectors. Even Chief U.N. Inspector Hans Clouseau, and his sidekick al-Baradei, couldn't miss radiation as intense as is being reported. We should wait for more to believe we have captured Saddam's nuke program.


12 posted on 04/10/2003 8:09:28 PM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: telebob
I'm getting the impression that the UN & Saddam had frequent orgies.
13 posted on 04/10/2003 8:10:10 PM PDT by crobnson
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To: marshmallow; *war_list; W.O.T.; Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; blam; Sabertooth; NormsRevenge; Gritty; ...
The UN Inspectors didn't do their job, they are a joke!

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14 posted on 04/10/2003 8:10:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: marshmallow
They said the U.S. troops may have broken U.N. seals meant to keep control of the radioactive material.

WHY DOES THE UN HAVE RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL IN IRAQ?

15 posted on 04/10/2003 8:12:07 PM PDT by ez (...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.)
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To: marshmallow
the Marines apparently broke U.N. seals designed to ensure the materials aren't diverted for weapons use — or end up in the wrong hands.

If this material can be diverted for weapons use, then what the heck is it doing in Iraq? If this material is capable of being processsed into weapons grade nuclear material then this IS the smoking gun!

16 posted on 04/10/2003 8:12:21 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
I am starting to believe we will not find a thing. By the time we got there the guy had every track covered.
17 posted on 04/10/2003 8:13:50 PM PDT by Minty
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To: ContentiousObjector
this isn't a smoking gun for the same reason the artillery shells weren't.

The UN had already seized and sealed it years ago

So are you telling us that while the UN was telling us that Iraq had no fissionable material, they actually did, but the UN "sealed it up?"

18 posted on 04/10/2003 8:14:12 PM PDT by ez (...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.)
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To: ez
We should be interrogating the UN to find out what else they know. The UN has had a really bad history and this is starting to show that there is more there. How do we get rid of them? Or at least refill their seats with people who have true morals?
19 posted on 04/10/2003 8:18:49 PM PDT by crobnson
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To: Minty
I am wondering myself.

Let's see.........there have now been probably near 10 false alarms.
20 posted on 04/10/2003 8:19:01 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (God Reigns!)
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