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ABC's Peter Jennings sees an ominous new threat in the world (To Hollywood Celebrities)
Media Research Center via E-Mail | April 16, 2003 | Brent Baker

Posted on 04/16/2003 4:03:56 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

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To: PJ-Comix
Peter Jennings, the canadian socialist scumbag, is THE reason nobody in my family gets their news from ABC.

Too bad ABC doesn't see jennings as the ominous threat to their ratings that he is. He's insignificant, just like the hollywierd pond scum he purports to "protect" with his compassionate story about how they are being SO mistreated. I wonder if being insignificant isn't what these idiots are all upset about - they can't stand not being celebrities in any field of endeavor, even those outside of entertainment for which they have less than no qualifications!

All Americans, even hollywierd pond scum, have freedom of speech just like I have freedom to stay away from their movies, and that's what I'm going to do (just like I stay away from ABC news), on my own volition, not because of any organized effort!!

61 posted on 04/16/2003 6:18:20 AM PDT by mil-vet
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To: PJ-Comix
the supposedly "well organized and aggressive efforts to make life very difficult for celebrities who speak out against the war."

Well, Peter, when they speak against the war, they make life difficult for the soldiers, their families, those who support freedom for Iraqis, and those who support the administration. Seems like fair play to me.

62 posted on 04/16/2003 6:22:04 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: mil-vet
Yes. We should boycott ALL of ABC's sponsors and see if
they catch on as quicly as the French.
63 posted on 04/16/2003 6:23:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: Stefan Stackhouse
The notion that "rights" are so absolute as to be utterly divorced from any responsibility for the consequences of their exercise is logically contradictory, practically impossible, and ultimately destructive to the political system that upholds those rights in the first place.

A great point, and totally opposite of the stance the same morons take regarding the 2nd Amendment. Not only is every gun-owner, gun-maker, gun-seller, and gun-user automatically guilty for virtually every crime in America, but their right that "shall not be infringed" must be erased from the Constitution entirely because of their supposed guilt!

64 posted on 04/16/2003 6:26:01 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: PJ-Comix
All together, now: "Awwwwwwwwwwww...."

Seriously, though...the ratings drop at ABC, the Dixie Chicks/Garafolo/Sarandon/Robbins backlash and dropoff in sales hasn't been caused by a specific call for boycott (a la Jesse Jackson in his shakedown efforts). This phenomenon differs tremendously from the lettuce and Campbell's soup boycotts of old, in that it has been spontaneous and unguided. In short, free-thinking Americans are individually deciding that their support of these people only serves to create the pedestal from which these Hollywood types are preaching. By withdrawing support, every-day Americans are practicing the very free-speech ideals that the Hollywood elite so cherish.

As we have learned in the campaign finance debate: money equals free speech. The more money and access you have to the airwaves, the more that your point-of-view can be broadcast.

So, take away their "celebrity" status, and no one will look to them for their opinion. Why should I be forced to support their work if I disagree with their opinion. Can't I have freedom of speech, too?

I expect Peter Jennings will be criticizing the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world the next time they stage an organized boycott.

65 posted on 04/16/2003 6:28:29 AM PDT by Fredgoblu
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To: PJ-Comix
but another vast right-wing conspiracy at home, specifically, the supposedly "well organized and aggressive efforts to make life very difficult for celebrities who speak out against the war."

It's as simple as this Peter: don't use the celebrity status created by the public's money as a platform to disseminate your leftwing opinions. You do that and people WILL respond the way they have. I mean, boycotting is a leftwing thing, isn't it, Peter? Don't like it much when people use it to send a message to you and your ilk!

66 posted on 04/16/2003 6:30:57 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: PJ-Comix
well organized and aggressive efforts

Well organized?!?!

Who has organized ABC's rating decline? Rush Limbaugh didn't call me and tell me to switch the station.

Earth to Peter: not all of us are sheep--some of us might just listen to a news source if we don't like your editorializing.

67 posted on 04/16/2003 6:37:01 AM PDT by Fredgoblu
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To: stuartcr
”Try to look at it objectively....when you detrimentally affect a persons livelihood (ie, not buying their product and telling others to do the same), because you do not approve of what they say or believe in.... you are, in effect, stifling their right to free speech. 'I will not buy your product unless you stop saying what you believe in, because it is not what I want to hear.'”

Not at all. Free speech is the right to say what you want without being arrested, imprisoned or tortured by the government for your speech.

It does not mean that people who object to your opinions may not exercise their rights to speak and even “peaceably assemble” (remember that?) and urge their fellow citizens to shun you and your products.

Free speech applies to everybody: the protestor and those that protest the protester.

68 posted on 04/16/2003 6:42:02 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner
OK.
69 posted on 04/16/2003 6:44:50 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: PJ-Comix
Anyone who speaks out with a controversial opinion on any subject may feel the wrath of those who disagree, albiet they have the right to speak out. If you tell your neighbor that "you're fat, ugly and stupid" you may be stating your honest opinion but your neighbor doesn't have to like it, nor do they have to like you or speak with you ever again. The "celebs" are in the same boat. They can say what they want but they shouldn't be surprised when people shun them.
70 posted on 04/16/2003 6:50:30 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: PJ-Comix
If a public person is stupid or naive enough to think they can express their opinions with impunity or without scrutiny, shouldn't they be required to have "MORON" tattooed on their foreheads?

Tim Robbins Inc. -- all the Hollyweird-ites tossed into one pile -- is complaining that their Freedom of Speech rights are being violated. I ask . . . How? They get wall-to-wall coverage without making much of an effort and those of us who disagree with their BS have to work our tails off to hold them accountable. Robbins Inc. is just pissed off because the internet has given conservatives a tool to do the same thing to them that they've always done to conservative activists via the liberal newspapers, magazines, and TV news.

I didn't see Robbins Inc. coming to Charlton Heston's aid through the years. Or John Wayne's during the Vietnam War. Robbins Inc. has what I call "SELECTIVE OUTRAGE" and the majority of the American people see them for what they are . . . elitist jackasses who think they're the only enlightened species in the Northern Hemisphere.

Perhaps Jennings and Robbins Inc. hasn't realized it yet but the internet is the great equalizer and we're not taking their BS any longer!

71 posted on 04/16/2003 6:54:28 AM PDT by geedee
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To: 7thson
The Nation, a progressive magazine?

In fact, it is a Marxist propaganda magazine.

72 posted on 04/16/2003 6:56:37 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (To smash the ugly face of Socialism is our mission)
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To: babble-on
"Robbins is forgetting that he and his wife make their living off of being popular"

I've heard that they are not married, just shacking up together like so many of the Hollyweirdos do. He doesn't even have enough conviction to marry the bi*ch but he has enough to critize America. These people just don't have a clue.

73 posted on 04/16/2003 6:58:26 AM PDT by Chi-Town Lady
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To: babble-on
"Robbins is forgetting that he and his wife make their living off of being popular. If they say unpopular things then people in general will like them less, and they will make less money. That's the market."

Profound and succinctly stated.

74 posted on 04/16/2003 7:00:56 AM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: stuartcr
Try to look at it objectively....when you detrimentally affect a persons livelihood (ie, not buying their product and telling others to do the same), because you do not approve of what they say or believe in.... you are, in effect, stifling their right to free speech. 'I will not buy your product unless you stop saying what you believe in, because it is not what I want to hear.'

This misguided viewpoint has already been addressed by several posts in this thread. The right to free speech does not translate to the unlimited 'right' to say whatever you want, no matter how ill-informed, inflammatory, or offensive, without being subject to the negative consequences that naturally arise from what you say. Liberals like Robbins want some sort of guaranteed personal immunity from the negative consequences of their foolish and arrogant statements. No such thing exists for any of us, no matter what walk of life we are in. Robbins is an actor whose livelihood depends on his talent and his box office appeal. Therefore he is in a highly vulnerable position which due to its very nature is dramatically affected by public approval or disapproval. When you stop to consider this, then you must conclude that if he has even a modicum of common sense he would know to keep his political views to himself, especially if he holds views that are wildly at odds with the majority of the people who pay to see his movies. It is the nature of the industry he chose to be a part of. People don't care what he thinks about politics, and they don't pay money to hear his radical views. But, like many actors and celebrities these days, he just can't resist the urge to pontificate, regardless how ill-informed and disconnected from reality his views are. It seems like celebrities come to a point in their careers and their thinking where they honestly believe that it's time to "do more" and somehow elevate themselves above mere actor/celeb status and show the world how "wise" they truly are. Well, there are risks with that, and those risks are not at the hands of the administration or the government, but rather are simply in the court of public opinion. Private citizens and individuals have every right to (a) disagree with what someone else says, and (b) express their disagreement by refusing to patronize that person's business, or buy their products, etc. I would point out that this is not something vindictive, either - this is just a normal reaction that comes right from the gut. It's just cause and effect. If Robbins want an exemption from that dynamic of human existence, then he'd better think seriously about becoming a hermit for the rest of his life.

75 posted on 04/16/2003 7:05:05 AM PDT by music_code
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To: Enduring Freedom

The TRUTH is the vast right wing conspiracy


76 posted on 04/16/2003 7:06:45 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (To smash the ugly face of Socialism is our mission)
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To: music_code
OK again.
77 posted on 04/16/2003 7:07:00 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: 7thson
A long-time Green Party member (along with wife Susan Sarandon), he was repeatedly criticized by other Hollywood stars for voting Ralph Nader during the controversial 2000 election.

Must have been a chill wind.

78 posted on 04/16/2003 7:09:42 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: goldstategop
"Free speech you see, applies only to anti-America Leftists. The rest of us, like Laura Schlessinger should at worst be shipped to the gulag or at best have their mouths gagged with duct tape. That's Robbins' idea of the fate the unwashed masses deserve if they cross their enlightened betters."

You've hit on something here - the undercurrent of "eliteism" that infects those on the left. We (the unwashed masses) just don't have the intellect to handle unbridled freedom, you see. (Ironic isn't it - when this view is promilgated by the likes of Peter Jennings - a HS dropout)

We can match Tim Robbins view of a "chilling effect" in the land. Our chilling effect will occur if and when the left resumes control of all branches of government. The first thing to happen will be the restoration of the mis-named "Fairness Doctrine" - which will be the death knell of talk (alternative) radio.

I'll wager Mr. Robbins that our "chilling effect" will occur before his.

79 posted on 04/16/2003 7:12:07 AM PDT by KeyBored (Baghdad Bob - CNN's new war correspondent)
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To: KeyBored
Where was Tim, then, when Dr. Laura was boycotted?

I don't know where Tim was, but his shack-up, Susan Saranwrap, was one of the celebrities that participated in "Stop Dr Laura." Hypocrites.

80 posted on 04/16/2003 7:13:30 AM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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