[dwswager]

As many of us have pointed out, religious zeal and nationalism are indeed predictable consequences of an attempt to occupy and "reform" a medieval hell-hole like Iraq. This is only the beginning.

This is one agitator in the group. Give it a rest. This is not going to be easy, and all the doom saying won't help. You guys sound like you should be on Democratic Underground.

[Black Bart]

A democratic system requires at least 2 parties. Many have more. Why should Iraq be unique. We may be witnessing the beginning of the Iraqi version of the National Democratic Party.

[Captain Kirk]

No, we sound a lot like Rush Limbaugh, Tom Delay circa 1998 on the Kosovo issue. You pro-war Wilsonians, on the other hand, sound like the Bill Clinton had toppled the Haiti regime "to bring democracy" or the Bill Clinton who bombed Kosovo "to bring human rights." Conservatives have adopted the naive liberal mantra of social engineering, humanitarian intervention and nation building. We are the true keepers of the conservative flame of realism and prudence.