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Are turbines a bird hazard? (Wind power, windmills)
Des Moines Register ^ | 04/18/2003 | PERRY BEEMAN

Posted on 04/18/2003 1:42:01 PM PDT by newgeezer

Edited on 05/25/2004 2:46:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

This calls for a $243,000, three-year study, of course.

Iowa State University researchers are checking to see whether birds are dying in collisions with the wind turbines that are popping up in the Iowa countryside like prairie grass. Bats and birds, even golden eagles, have died after colliding with wind turbines across the West and Midwest.


(Excerpt) Read more at dmregister.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: energy; energylist; greenenergyhoax; renewable; windmills; windpower
Take that, enviro-wackos.
1 posted on 04/18/2003 1:42:01 PM PDT by newgeezer
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To: bkwells
ping :)
2 posted on 04/18/2003 1:44:31 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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3 posted on 04/18/2003 1:45:03 PM PDT by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a true capitalist!)
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To: newgeezer
"It's right in the middle of three major waterfowl production areas

What, are the waterfowl being produced in factories? That doesn't sound very environmentally friendly. How much smoke and toxins are being spewed in the air from these production areas? I call for a study!!!

4 posted on 04/18/2003 1:49:43 PM PDT by Luna (Evil will not triumph...God is at the helm)
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To: newgeezer
A better question:

Are birds a hazard to wind turbines?

If I'm offered a choice between chopped migratory fowl served on a toasted wheat bun or freezing in the dark, I know which way I'm going already.

5 posted on 04/18/2003 2:02:35 PM PDT by stboz
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To: newgeezer
I used to get a good belly laugh out of watching the lefties circular logic cause them to run headfirst into one another. A virtual lefty figure eight race if you will.

No nukes, Go wind....ooops, you might kill a bird.
No coal, Go hydro....ooops, you created a lake where one wasn't intended...ooops, Don't touch that lake it's a protected wetland....ooops the fish get caught in the turbines...
No gas, go bio-mass...ooops, creates greenhouse gasses.
Yada, Yada,....ooops...

Any more all I get is a chuckle as I grab for my wallet. I've become more and more convinced it's not about protecting anything except their incomes. $243,000 to study something that should be obvious...Yup, your gonna kill an occasional bird.

Jeeze, not this crap again!!!!
6 posted on 04/18/2003 2:06:13 PM PDT by kissthis
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To: kissthis
... lefties circular logic ...

I heard this H2 proponent. "We can produce H2 at night when the rates are low..."

Okay, so you produce enough to displace a power plant, thereby having less of that excess, cheap power at night...
(not even considering all other effects, costs, problems, etc.)

7 posted on 04/18/2003 2:31:07 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: newgeezer
It's fun to watch one group of enviro-wackos p*ssing off another set.
8 posted on 04/18/2003 2:45:45 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: expatpat
I have seen incidents where some birds fly into glass windows in buildings resulting in death to the birds. How about tearing down all buildings and removing all inhabitants to caves and dugouts?
9 posted on 04/18/2003 2:55:06 PM PDT by MidlandDesperado
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To: expatpat
I've heard ignorance is bliss.
10 posted on 04/18/2003 3:02:14 PM PDT by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a true capitalist!)
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To: newgeezer
"Are turbines a bird hazard? "

you had to go n post this...
now the "kennedy's" have n excuse to ban these in "their own backyard..."

11 posted on 04/18/2003 3:08:09 PM PDT by hoot2
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To: stboz
Those turbines are plug-ugly, and they take quite a bit of land. I'd rather see an oil rig any day (esp. the ones painted to look like giant grasshoppers).
I hope they do decide that turbines are Cuisinarts for birds.
12 posted on 04/18/2003 6:25:25 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: newgeezer
The older, open tower designs were bad for hawks, eagles and the like. They would sit on the girders and get wacked by the blades when they took off flying. The enclosed towers don't have this problem. Also I think that recent designs have larger slower turning blades.
13 posted on 04/18/2003 6:51:31 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: newgeezer
Thanks for the windpower post! It sure would be nice for the people concerned about bird kills to compare windturbine bird vehicular birdocide. How many millions of birds get splattered against cars and trucks each year, not to mention the 41,500 people that die in them each year.

Current windmill installation world wide is standing at 31 GW BTW and growing about 20 percent per year.

14 posted on 04/21/2003 5:29:07 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: hoot2
you had to go n post this... now the "kennedy's" have n excuse to ban these in "their own backyard..."

I hope the liberals vote the Kennedy's out when they realize that they have no convictions about anything, just like Clinton. What kind of a liberal would oppose offshore windpower for the sake of not having to see them. What a scumbag!

15 posted on 04/21/2003 5:31:51 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: biblewonk
It's time to get even!! They've been sh****** on my car for ages!!!!!
16 posted on 06/30/2003 12:39:36 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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