I'm shaking my head here.
You are surely deluded or maybe simply have no reading comprehension skills.
Everyone on that thread and everyone reading it now, would conclude that Jael was defending the witches and trying to get all on that thread to go talk to her "friends".
She even assisted witch Harvest Moon in signing up on FR.
Everyone knows what a manipulator Jael was. I think my favorite description of her is "scab-picker".
Now I will stop responding to you. I believe you are Jael under yet another monicker.
<< I'm shaking my head here. >>
Sorry, I didn't hear anything rattle.
<< Everyone on that thread and everyone reading it now, would conclude that Jael was defending the witches and trying to get all on that thread to go talk to her "friends". >>
You're the deluded one. She was defending the fact that there ARE witches, she was not defending the witches. She invited those of you who denied that witches exist to talk to them yourselves. You refused. She had the goods to back up her claims, and you all got caught with your pants down. So rather than admit you were wrong, all you could do was resort to character attacks against Jael.
<< Now I will stop responding to you. I believe you are Jael under yet another monicker. >>
See? You ARE deluded. I am a man, she is a woman. I live in Wisconsin, she's in Alabama. You are in OZ - and your little dog, too!
Or HarvestMoon. Whoever....definitely a retread.
I noticed you selectively posted things from the Harry Potter thread and left off every single post that showed Jael is a Christian who is anti witchcraft. Just one huge *coincidence*, right? ;-)
To correct your accidental (ahem!) oversight, I found some of the ones you missed. Now everybody will be able to see that you are engaged in a smear attempt and that YOU twisted, excluded, and took Jael's comments out of "context, context, context".
To: Lurking2Long
It might not be very popular to interject God and what he says about such things into the Harry Potter argument, but I salute you for doing so.
For those of you who don't have a concordance, there is a free online searchable bible at www.justbible.com
http://www.theophilos.sk/download.htm At this link you will find an excellent FREE easy to use download Bible. It's fast, and free!!
136 posted on 11/15/2002 7:24 PM CST by Jael
To: JenB
Jen, when people got saved who had formerly been involved in the occult, they did the following:
Acts 19:13 ¶Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. 14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so. 15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? 16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. 17 And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified. 18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. 19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. 20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.
God certainly knows the difference.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
151 posted on 11/15/2002 8:09 PM CST by Jael
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To: Irish Eyes; RJCogburn; BCrago66; greasyHeart; Prodigal Son; KarlInOhio; Billthedrill; 50sDad; ...
"My daughter and I have a date to see it next Tuesday. Can hardly wait. Have you ever read the Harry Potter books??
May I ask if you have read the Bible concerning witchcraft and evil? And violence? I know people that took their young children to see a movie (Harry Potter) that actually majored in violence and evil.
The movies also taught that people NOT involved in witchcraft were stupid. I can't understand a Christian parent exposing their innocent children to the anger and mayhem in Harry Potter.
Psalms 101:3 I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
Psalms 140:11 Let not an evil speaker be established in the earth: evil shall hunt the violent man to overthrow him.
Psalms 141:4 Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties.
Deuteronomy 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, 11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
I keep hearing people say "It's just fiction" as if that makes it ok to teach your children that the occult is a good thing. The hero is a witch. I know REAL witches. Let me tell you, there are no *good* witches. Not according to God.
Also, I personally reserached how children are effected by Harry Potter. One of the most interesting things I turned up was the Scholastic message board. Children were posting there, sharing with each other how Harry Potter had gotten them interested in spells and other aspects of the occult.
Please don't think that what children see doesn't effect them, and deeply. Visuals effect adults, we all know that. Even more so for children.
Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
NOTE: Multiple occurrences of each item described below may be likely, definitely when plural.
Wanton Violence/Crime (W):
imprisonment of a child, repeatedly
physical abuse by caregivers, repeatedly
firearm threat with discharge
"Anyone who stood up against him ended up dead."
floating evil being drinking blood from an animal's neck
floating evil being threatening a child
attack of children by a huge three-headed dog, repeatedly
bloody injury
animated chess game with lives at stake, graphic
willingness to commit suicide to enable victory of friends
evil face on the back of a head
orders to kill a boy
attempted murder
threat of death for disobedience
ghost removing his head
great falls, repeatedly
attack by a giant troll
beating of a child with a club by a giant troll, seeing the club hit the child, repeatedly
threat of harm to force compliance
brutality
burning flesh
crumbling flesh
Impudence/Hate (I)(1):
two uses of the three/four letter word vocabulary
abusive caregivers
child screaming at his parents
parents submitting to child's screaming
adolescent arrogance
lie to prevent accountability
adolescent meanness to others, repeatedly
children wandering about alone in a forest at night
planning disobedience and disobedience of rules
lie
bully threat
lies to protect
brutal sports tactics with audience of children cheering it on
invisibility to sneak, repeatedly
encouragement by an adult to a child to break the rules to get even
Sex/Homosexuality (S):
none noted
Drugs/Alcohol (D):
smoking
Offense to God (O)(2):
witchcraft/sorcery to control others, repeatedly
transfiguration
levitation, repeatedly
witchcraft/sorcery to get even
boy conversing with a snake
witchcraft/sorcery to start fires, repeatedly
witchcraft/sorcery to grow tail on a boy
community of witches and wizards
goblins, ghosts, repeatedly
witchcraft/sorcery to destroy property
"You're a wizard, Harry"
"Not all wizards are good"
disappearance by witchcraft/sorcery
walking through walls
casting spells, repeatedly
manifestations in mirror
mirror to show deepest desires
elixir of life to make immortal
half man, half horse beast
protection by unholy force
broom riding, repeatedly
attempted murder with witchcraft/sorcery, repeatedly
offer to resurrect parents by unholy force
"There is no good or evil. There's only power" (Voldemort)
talking witches hat
witchcraft/sorcery to create food
paintings with moving subjects, repeatedly
teaching the use of potions to control others and even "stopper" death
evil eyes, repeatedly
witchcraft/sorcery incantation to do harm
Christmas without Jesus
invisibility by witchcraft/sorcery
face in pain protruding from book pages
demon cat; witch's familiar
evil passing through boy's body, causing unconsciousness
witchcraft/sorcery to change flag colors
unholy possession
Murder/Suicide (M)(3):
tale of many murders
murder of teacher by unholy possession
http://www.capalert.com/capreports/harrypottersorc.htm 170 posted on 11/15/2002 8:28 PM CST by Jael
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To: null and void
I make no apology for believing in and trusting what God says.
Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
188 posted on 11/15/2002 8:48 PM CST by Jael
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To: HiTech RedNeck
They keep saying witches are not real. I am telling them that they are. They don't believe me. So I posted the chat link where some are chatting.
293 posted on 11/15/2002 10:42 PM CST by Jael
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To: CharacterCounts
I would say they like me very much, that's for sure.
311 posted on 11/15/2002 10:55 PM CST by Jael
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To: CharacterCounts
I don't fellowship with them. Just ask them.
I just happen to know where to find some.
314 posted on 11/15/2002 10:57 PM CST by Jael
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To: CharacterCounts
I know that some of them are real witches.
Do I support witchcraft in any way? No. You will find that those people have much animosity for me.
328 posted on 11/15/2002 11:07 PM CST by Jael
To: HairOfTheDog
Look, you asked me how I knew witchcraft was real, I only told you how to find out for yourself, since you refused to believe me.
330 posted on 11/15/2002 11:09 PM CST by Jael
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To: CharacterCounts
I don't have any relationship at all with them. They pretty much do not like me at all, and I avoid them.
332 posted on 11/15/2002 11:11 PM CST by Jael
To: HairOfTheDog
Listen, you can say you don't believe, ok. But God certainly makes it clear that the powers of the occult are real. These people do not believe in Satan, but they are witches, whether you think I am making this up or not.
I am not vouching for any power they may or may not have. If they do have any, it's is from Satan, whether they realize that or not.
But they are very real.
342 posted on 11/15/2002 11:19 PM CST by Jael
To: HairOfTheDog
The Bible says it is real. Also, sadly, a family member is involved in some of those practices.
You said it wasn't real, I said "Go here and ask a witch". You declined. Case closed.
349 posted on 11/15/2002 11:23 PM CST by Jael
To: HiTech RedNeck
They would probably say no, they don't hate me. But I promise you this, they do not like me.
354 posted on 11/15/2002 11:26 PM CST by Jael
To: HairOfTheDog
"So you believe they are real because they say they are, whether they actually have the power of a witch or not. We know they say they are witches. The question is are they real witches or real whackjobs?"
Well..... I have met some that I thought were a tad off balance. And I have met some that operate in society just like you and I, except they are witches. They practice witchcraft.
I believe that any power that may be associated with that is Satanic. They however do not believe that Satan exist.
373 posted on 11/15/2002 11:42 PM CST by Jael
To: proust
I personally do not watch the Wizard of Oz any longer for the same occultic objections mentioned previously.
No regrets.
385 posted on 11/15/2002 11:52 PM CST by Jael
To: HiTech RedNeck
"Maybe the same should go for the "witch web sites" too
People of different religions post there. But I no longer post there. :-)
395 posted on 11/15/2002 11:59 PM CST by Jael
To: FreedomAvatar
It's that pesky little Bible issue!
Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are *true*, whatsoever things are *honest*, whatsoever things are *just*, whatsoever things are *pure*, whatsoever things are *lovely*, whatsoever things are of *good report*; if there be any *virtue*, and if there be any *praise*, think on these things. 9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.
<< Or HarvestMoon. Whoever....definitely a retread. >>
Oh, now I'M a witch? Is that ALL you guys can do is make false, railing accusations? No wonder you all were so desperate to run Jael off FR. The whole lot of you together can't deal with someone who posts facts and reason.
Fishing for compliments. Maybe she feel's she's ugly because she leads an ugly...nevermind.
She looked nothing like this little red X when I last saw the picture. Sorry folks.
