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Saddam's Family Lifestyles Shock Iraqis
newsday.com ^ | april-20-2003 | By NIKO PRICE AP writer

Posted on 04/20/2003 3:25:42 PM PDT by green team 1999

Saddam's Family Lifestyles Shock Iraqis

By NIKO PRICE
Associated Press Writer

April 20, 2003, 1:24 PM EDT

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- The blacksmith paused from his looting of the palace to gape at a door a foot thick, and at the empty, marble-lined safe inside.

"This safe is as big as the room I rent, and I live there with my wife and two children," said Ahmed Hamza, 28. "I thought the rumors were exaggerated, but these people lived in a different world."

This house was owned by Hala Hussein, Saddam's thirtysomething daughter, whereabouts currently unknown. She had two more across the street, several across the river, and even more scattered around the city. And that was just Baghdad.

With the Saddam family driven into hiding, Iraqis have begun to explore its secret world -- one they always knew existed in their midst, but whose luxury and debauchery are nonetheless causing shock and anger.

Many of the palaces were bombed, then ransacked by looters, and are now under U.S. military guard. But journalists have been allowed into some of them, and there are so many -- dozens in Baghdad and around Iraq -- that U.S. forces can't guard them all.

Iraqis always knew the Saddam family lived well, even as it claimed U.N. sanctions were starving its people and denying its children lifesaving medicine. But few realized just how well they lived.

Nor were they much different from other dictatorships. In 1989, when communist regimes were collapsing in Eastern Europe, citizens long subjected to deprivation were outraged to discover how well their leaders lived.

At the time, the Berliner Zeitung newspaper described the homes of ousted East German officials: "Canadian lumber, Italian floor mosaics, West German bathroom tiles ... in grand one-family houses with immense floor space."

"If you have all the resources of a wealthy country at your disposal, basic instincts come forth," said Richard Fairbanks, a Middle East expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

Based on visits to several of the houses, Saddam appears to have lived more like a drug lord than a president. Iraq's rulers had more money than taste -- and an obsession with guns, cash and women.

Odai Hussein, Saddam's eldest son, had a compound in the corner of the Republican Palace -- a city-within-a-city complete with six-lane highways and traffic lights -- that included a zoo featuring lions, cheetahs and bear.

Odai's house had reams of pornography off the Internet, boxes of sexual fortifiers, rooms of fine wines and liquors and Cuban cigars with his name on the wrappers.

Nearby, U.S. soldiers are living in a domed house they believe was the residence of Odai's concubines. With a pink-and-white color scheme, it has statuettes of couples in foreplay, couches with fluffy pillows and a swimming pool with a bar.

Across town, a two-story house apparently held one of Odai's weapons stores: boxes of Italian pistols, Soviet-era Kalashnikovs and American-made rifles still wrapped in plastic, as well as antique muskets in presentation cases and dozens of knives and swords, many gold-plated.

Saddam lived the high life as well. While many of his palaces are off-limits, soldiers let journalists into a split-level one-room townhouse in central Baghdad they dubbed "Saddam's love shack." It featured a mirrored bedroom and lamps shaped like women.

Next door, still in their opened packaging, were more than 6,000 Beretta pistols, 650 Sig Sauer pistols, 248 Colt revolvers, 160 Belgian 7.65mm pistols, 12 cases of Sterling submachine guns and four cases of anti-tank missiles.

At another house, whose owner's identity is unclear, soldiers found suitcases that concealed submachine guns with triggers on the handles, and air pistols that fired cyanide pellets.

Visiting Baghdad last week, Gen. Tommy Franks, the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, inspected the gold toilet-paper dispenser and the gold-handled toilet bowl brush in one of Saddam's palaces and mockingly spoke of "the oil-for-palace program" -- a reference to the U.N. oil-for-food program that was supposed to provide Iraqis with humanitarian aid.

"It was medieval," said Jim Phillips, an Iraq expert at the conservative Heritage Foundation in Washington. "A parasitic class that ruled over the people, and was much more corrupt than even a lot of the communist regimes which we saw toward the end."

The vast gap between haves and have-nots explains in part the frenzy of looting that swept Baghdad as soon as Saddam was gone. By Saturday there was little left to plunder. Daughter Hala's house had been picked clean and Hamza, the blacksmith, had to settle for four fluorescent light bulbs he removed from their sockets.

Iraqis had long heard rumors about the lifestyles of Iraq's rich, but many believed them to be exaggerations. After all, in the heavily policed secret world they lived in, it wasn't something they could safely gossip about.

"I imagined I would see such things only in my dreams," said Mohammed al-Abousi, 70, who has lived across the street from a riverside palace for 10 years. "Now I can see them right across the street."

Al-Abousi, a retired general in Iraq's army, said he had many indications the family was living well. He saw fancy cars entering and leaving the compound, and on Odai's birthday last June he saw an impressive fireworks show.

"We are hurt by these things," he said. "There are people who can eat anything they want and throw the rest in the river, and there are people who are always hungry."

His biggest grudge was against Saddam's bodyguards for ordering him to stay off his own roof because it looks into the palace grounds.

He took a journalist upstairs to gaze out into the forbidden world.

U.S. Marines based at the palace responded quickly, rushing in and pointing an assault rifle at the journalist's chest.

"You can't go on the roof," barked a Marine who didn't give his name. "We almost took a shot at you."

Al-Abousi just sighed.

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EDITOR'S NOTE: Associated Press correspondents Robert Tanner in New York and Chris Tomlinson in Baghdad contributed to this report.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: corruption; dictator; greed; iraq; iraqifreedom; looting; palaces; poverty; saddam; warlist
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a rich oil country with millions living on poverty and without hopes for education

do we really need to show the UN proof of WMD,i don`t think so.

1 posted on 04/20/2003 3:25:42 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
Saddam and his regime were the weapons of mass destruction.
2 posted on 04/20/2003 3:40:20 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: green team 1999
Seems like the main weapon of mass destruction so far uncovered has been that of the deprivation and humiliation that Saddaam heaped on his own people. That's proof enough to topple this monster.
3 posted on 04/20/2003 3:40:26 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: green team 1999
You mean Al-Jazeera never aired a show called "Lifestyles of the Despots and Dictators?"
4 posted on 04/20/2003 3:43:25 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: green team 1999; *war_list; W.O.T.; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; sakka; ...
Just incredible!

OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

5 posted on 04/20/2003 3:46:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: TrebleRebel

U.S. Army physician's assistant Lt. John Frasure from Milford, Ind., sets down his helmet while trying out President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s oldest son Odai Hussein's bed at Odai's palace in Baghdad Monday, April 14, 2003. (AP Photo/John Moore

where is all that people that was making so much noise about the dead babies and no food,no milk?

6 posted on 04/20/2003 3:50:29 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
U.S. Marines based at the palace responded quickly, rushing in and pointing an assault rifle at the journalist's chest.

"You can't go on the roof," barked a Marine who didn't give his name. "We almost took a shot at you."

Al-Abousi just sighed.

Notice how AP has to end the article on note that makes Marines look like trigger-happy thugs threatening journalists. They hope that after reading all about Saddam's opulence and deprivation on his people, the one thing that'll stick in your mind is the image of the Marine pointing his weapon at the journalist's chest.

7 posted on 04/20/2003 3:52:46 PM PDT by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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To: Texas Eagle

U.S. Marines enjoy the view of an artificial lake and palaces inside Saddam Hussein's Presidential Palace compound in the northern Iraqi town of Tikrit, Tuesday April 15, 2003. AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

artificial lake and palaces inside Saddam Hussein's Presidential Palace compound in the northern Iraqi town of Tikrit,
artificial lake?....inside palace compound?... give me a break!
and people suffer without potable water.

8 posted on 04/20/2003 3:56:08 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
Sounds like the kind of houses Clinton would hole up in...

 

9 posted on 04/20/2003 3:56:28 PM PDT by Fintan (Barnum was wrong...it's more like every fifteen seconds.)
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To: laz17
I noticed that. They have to throw in a little moral equivalency, it's like a heroin fix to their ego.
10 posted on 04/20/2003 4:01:36 PM PDT by PianoMan (Liberate the Axis of Evil)
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To: Fintan
Sounds like the kind of houses Clinton would hole up in...

i bet,clinton have no taste,i should say "the clntons"

11 posted on 04/20/2003 4:03:04 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
Let the light of truth shine into all the dark corners of Iraq. Maybe if the "Arab Street" sees how the Iraqi people have been used and abused they might ask some embarassing questions of their own leaders.
12 posted on 04/20/2003 4:04:29 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ
Food convoy reaches Baghdad

Fifty lorries carrying wheat flour from the United Nations food agency have rolled into Baghdad in the first big food delivery since the war began in Iraq. They pulled into a government warehouse in the city centre after a four-day journey from Jordan and are now being guarded by US troops backed by a tank and armoured cars.

The 1,400 tons of flour are due to be released in May when current stocks are expected to run out, a World Food Programme official said.

13 posted on 04/20/2003 4:08:21 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
I recall how shocked everyone was with Imelda Marcos's shoe collection. But, poor Imelda, she and her husband were the despot rulers of a poor country. Imagine how many shoes she could have purchased if she had lived in the Middle East.
14 posted on 04/20/2003 4:12:58 PM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: green team 1999
Based on visits to several of the houses, Saddam appears to have lived more like a drug lord than a president. Iraq's rulers had more money than taste -- and an obsession with guns, cash and women. Odai Hussein, Saddam's eldest son, had a compound in the corner of the Republican Palace -- a city-within-a-city complete with six-lane highways and traffic lights -- that included a zoo featuring lions, cheetahs and bear. Odai's house had reams of pornography off the Internet, boxes of sexual fortifiers, rooms of fine wines and liquors and Cuban cigars with his name on the wrappers.

And the Saudi's no doubt, would also be surprised to find out their king and princes do not live as paupers, or under the terror of the Vice and Virtue Squads.

15 posted on 04/20/2003 4:16:36 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (For all your tagline needs. Don't delay! Orders shipped overnight.)
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To: green team 1999
You can't go on the roof," barked a Marine who didn't give his name.

"We almost took a shot at you." Al-Abousi just sighed.

"But I felt shame as the fluid run down my legs as I quivered knowing I was one lucky Anti American."

16 posted on 04/20/2003 4:16:48 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: green team 1999
you could replace saddam and sons with elitist liberals and the story would still work
17 posted on 04/20/2003 4:18:17 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: redheadtoo
actually their people remember and liked the old ways when marcos was on power.
18 posted on 04/20/2003 4:19:03 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: laz17
I think you are jumping too quickly. That is a piece of irony that no writer could pass up (if, of course it is authentic). The marine's words put it in perspective. He was following orders while there were still snipers about and he was concerned about the citizen's safety. It comes through.
19 posted on 04/20/2003 4:25:16 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
you could replace saddam and sons with elitist liberals and the story would still work

let` see,streisand,geffen,spieldberg,m.moore,susan sarandon,the clintons,kennedy`s, hhhhmmmand few more.

20 posted on 04/20/2003 4:26:59 PM PDT by green team 1999
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