Hollywierd Cheap Shot in FX special "44 Minutes"

Vanity ^ | BenLurkin

[wita]

Just seeing the ads for the show was enough to let me know this was done by a gun hating sob. Breaking glass cowering people, bullets flying, blood all over the place, police hunkering down, shell casings by the hundreds, I didn't bother to watch. We knew how the story turned out anyway.

[GOPJ]

Why not have a "daily cheap shot" vanity? We could list all the cheap shots used against conservatives on any given day. I see them in newspapers all the time. It would be fun.

[kinghorse]

FX is the violence network for the flagship Fox. Murdoch see's ratings in violence. This made for TV movie went the extra mile to make sure you got an eyeful of gore, presumably to show the effects of a AK round on a human body.

I noticed they left out the drug angle. I thought these bad guys tested positive for phenobarbitol or some anxiety medications and that was the reason they performed so calmly when they should have been outta control.

I guess the pharm lobby's a bit more powerful than the gun lobby and they had it written out.

Gun manufacturers need to start advertizing on TV and their problems would go away.

[BenLurkin]

I liked this one:

[kinghorse]

DennisW,

You named some good fight scenes but the greatest in my mind is the German v Brooklyn GI fight to the death in Private Ryan. That one affects you.

Last of the Mohicans is certainly in the top 5. Daniel Day Lewis get's props for that one and Gangs of NY.

[BenLurkin]

There was some kind of drug angle. The bad guys were true "dead-enders".

[kinghorse]

You missed my point. The drug companies advertize thereby helping guys like Murdoch make bank. One would assume any mention of prescription drugs as being partially to blame for their unworldly fearlessness would be frowned on by the drug companies. Hence that angle gets overlooked.

[dbwz]

I heard commercials on the radio for this program for the past couple of weeks - even the commercials were disgusting!

Here's a CNN article on the shootout as a refresher:
Botched L.A bank heist turns into bloody shootout

Here's an excerpt, it really tells how poorly trained and how lacking in skills these cops were. Sad.

Officers who initially responded to Friday's robbery, carrying standard-issue 9 millimeter Baretta handguns, were in trouble.

"Tactically, the first officers that arrived were at a severe disadvantage," weapons expert and former LAPD officer Dave Butler said. "Police carry 15 rounds. They would need to re-load."

Stunned officers were out-gunned to such a degree that at one point they burst into a gun store, and walked out with more powerful guns and ammunition.

Police "came in a panic because their weapons weren't good enough to fight these people," said the store's president, who would identify himself only as Bob.

"These people had body armor and they needed something that would break body armor," he said. "We supplied them with slugs that would at least break bones on someone wearing body armor."

[asformeandformyhouse]

Did you ever see Mann's TV series "Crime Story"? Done on a very high level for TV

Yes, very well done. Of course now I'll have the song "Runaway" running in my head all day.

As I walk along, I wonder
A what went wrong with our love.......

[Centurion2000]

interesting

[Centurion2000]

I noticed they left out the drug angle. I thought these bad guys tested positive for phenobarbitol or some anxiety medications and that was the reason they performed so calmly when they should have been outta control.

You mean these guys were using anxiety drugs to keep down the shakes during a firefight ?

What a novel approach to that problem. I wonder if they also retained fine motor control even with the adrenaline running through them.

[Gothmog]

I don't mean to be a killjoy, because "Last of the Mohicans" was a good romantic/action film with great scenery and musical score, but there are certainly a number of stark differnces (some very PC) that the film changed from the book.

The lead, Hawkeye, was not some American gone nativist. He was a lot older (mid-40s), dressed like an American frontiersman, not an Indian, and had worked for the British as a scout for years. He did not despise the English military, he thought some commanders were quite good and thought some were idiots.

One of the biggest PC things they changed was Hawkeye's feelings about Indians. Other than his two friends he despised all Indians. He made it quite clear that genocide would be fine with him. He pretty much killed any Indian he found anywhere. They were subhuman to him.

Also, he was not the romantic lead. In the book, Hawkeye's young Indian friend falls in love with Cora, the older brunette girl. Why? Because her father on his travels took comfort from a woman not his wife -- Cora was a mulatto. The young Indian could feel free to pursue her because society at that time accepted Indian-mulatto relationships, but he never could have courted a white girl.

The half retarded blonde was the legitimate heir of the colonel and his wife. The English Major pursues her because she will legally inherit her father's money, lands and estates. And society would never allow him to court a mulatto even if he wanted to. There is never any competition between the Major and Hawkeye over the girls.

The movie also completely cuts out a main character in the book, Natty Bumpo, the 'religious' lead/comic relief.

The book is also good, although Mark Twain vicously criticized it.

[Atlas Sneezed]

"Rather than recognize the civic service provided by the store, the producers of this rank crappy "special" chose to insert a line from a fictional police offer "I can't believe they let people buy these kind of guns"."

I guess cops ain't "people"!

[Oberon]

Weapons law abiding citizens can never access.

Not quite true. Some states are select-fire friendly, and with appropriate ATF licensing you can obtain a Class III license that means you can own and operate machine guns and *REAL* assault rifles.

[freedomlover]

BTW you can buy a Kevlar helmet new I think from cheaperthandirt.com

Its upwards of two bills I think.

[cgk]

Just watched "Last of the Mohicans" after finally getting it on DVD about a month ago. You're entirely correct about the scene where she jumps... chilling and exceptionally well, done. And I've seen only a couple episodes of "Crime Story" - still waiting for the inevitable release on DVD or at the very least its airing on TV, like "Vice" on TNN.

[cgk]

Wiliam Peterson "Live and Die in LA" another great one

Yep! Love that movie. Great, great, great. Don't own it yet... Also - I just thought of this, do you watch CSI? There was one episode that was a tribute of sorts to "Manhunter", same kind of killer, same kind of investigation, except Peterson was the criminalist not the profiler. But he figured it out. I saw it aired right before "Red Dragon" was released in theaters. Excellent episode. I wish I could remember the name of it.

[adam_az]

as we all suspected.

[Conservomax]

I'm suprised they didn't have a picture of Ronald Reagan hanging on the wall, another liberal filmaker sight-gag cliche.

[appalachian_dweller]

>> I can't believe they let people buy these kind of guns <<

Yea, I watched. Yea, I was disgusted.

Problem is most people know nothing about firearms. I run across (no not over) many people who are against guns. Ask them the difference between semi-auto and auto and they cannot tell you. They just ignorantly believe was the TV feeds them. It's too much work to do the research and LEARN about something before forming an opinion on it.