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Saddam had WMDs
National Review Online ^ | June 9, 2003 | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 06/09/2003 12:42:54 PM PDT by hchutch

The United States has discovered weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I know this because I read it on the front page of the very liberal New York Times. Of course, the Times was only trying to hurt the administration. In the rush to Baghdad during the war, our troops bypassed and failed to secure one of Saddam's key nuclear facilities. That facility was looted by local villagers, who ransacked vaults and warehouses looking for anything of value. Many of the villagers took home radioactive barrels, and are now suffering from radiation poisoning. According to the Times, the looted nuclear facility, "contained ample radioactive poisons that could be used to manufacture an inestimable quantity of so-called dirty bombs."

So in the course of trying to embarrass the administration, the Times has inadvertently raised a very important point in the administration's defense. Saddam's nuclear-weapons program contained sufficient material to pose a serious threat to the United States. In the hands of terrorists, nuclear dirty bombs supplied by Saddam could have rendered landmarks and key sites in American cities uninhabitable for the foreseeable future.

And why did Saddam have a nuclear facility in the first place? It was, of course, part of his effort to produce a nuclear bomb. In fact, the nuclear site reported on by the Times was connected to the facility bombed years before by the Israelis, who had become convinced that Saddam was attempting to build a nuclear weapon. Thank goodness the Israelis acted. Thank goodness we did too.

Now it's true that this was a site that the inspectors knew about. That, however, might not have prevented Saddam from transferring the small amount of nuclear material necessary for a dirty bomb to terrorists. And the Iraqis may well have been carrying out other critical tasks in pursuit of a nuclear bomb at secret facilities. And there was always the danger that, in the absence of regime change, the Europeans would have tired of sanctions and inspections — as they'd done before — and let Saddam complete his nuclear work. The Europeans' renewed interest in sanctions was only prompted by America's preparations to invade, and we could not have kept our troops at the ready forever.

Another serious danger was the possibility that, at a propitious moment some time down the road, Saddam might simply have kicked the inspectors out. After all, that's what the North Koreans did. They waited till we were tied down by our struggle with Iraq, booted the inspectors out, and powered up their nuclear program. Had we failed to invade, Saddam could have waited until a weaker president was in power, and/or until the U.S. was tied down in a war (perhaps with Korea), and simply thrown the inspectors out. After all, he'd done it before.

Prior to the war, it was impossible to tell how close Saddam was to building a nuclear bomb. We hoped and believed that he was still at least a year or two away from success, although the possibility that he might be even closer than that had to be reckoned with. After all, our intelligence had once before proven wrong. We had underestimated the progress of Saddam's nuclear program, as we eventually learned from defectors. But even if Saddam was a couple of years away from a bomb, the need to invade was urgent. The point was precisely to stop Saddam before he got close enough to a bomb to exploit our uncertainty about his capacity and blackmail us. That, after all, is exactly what the North Koreans have been doing for some time.

All of this was publicly discussed before the war. Opponents of invasion emphasized that Saddam was probably at least a couple of years away from building a bomb. And they argued that conventional deterrence could in any case keep a nuclear-armed Saddam under control. Proponents of the war argued that Saddam might be closer to a bomb than we realized, and that, in any case, it was necessary to strike him quickly, when he was (we hoped) too far from a bomb to blackmail us.

Drawing on Kenneth Pollack's powerful case for invasion, proponents of the war argued that, once in possession of a bomb, Saddam could not be deterred in the way the Soviets once were. Opponents of war asked why we were not invading North Korea, which was so obviously close to having a bomb. Proponents of the war countered that we were invading Iraq to prevent it from becoming a North Korea — which was, by all accounts, far too close to having a bomb to safely invade.

In two pieces published in the run-up to the war, "Brave New World" and "Why Invade," I explained that the administration had not been able to fully and frankly emphasize the connection between Saddam's nuclear ambitions and the war. Both the president and the vice president did, of course, talk about the potential threat of a nuclear-armed Saddam. But to emphasize that, and especially to spell out the danger scenarios outlined explicitly by Kenneth Pollack, would have been difficult and awkward. It would have harmed American power to note in too much detail just how vulnerable we were to nuclear blackmail. The same dynamic helps explain the administration's relative silence about the barrel over which the North Koreans now have us. We do our best to pretend that Kim Jong Il has not got us in as difficult a situation as he in fact does.

But, again, this dynamic was by no means a complete secret before the war. The administration did include the danger of nuclear blackmail from Iraq in its publicly stated reasons for the war. And pundits did argue about all this. In particular, the war's proponents made the point that, Saddam's being perhaps a year or two away from a nuclear weapon (if we were lucky) made this exactly the moment to strike.

So the failure of the administration to turn up any chemical or biological weapons in Iraq is, from my perspective, not the key point. As I said repeatedly at the time, we were going to war to prevent Saddam from eventually producing nuclear weapons. That fact was known and even announced by the administration, but for reasons inherent to the nuclear game, could not be fully emphasized and spelled out.

Did the Iraqis have chemical and biological weapons? No one doubts that they did. Did they destroy or move them out of the country prior to the inspectors' arrival to prevent their discovery from justifying an invasion? Quite possibly. If so, in an effort to preserve the deterrent effect of our belief that he still possessed chemical and biological weapons, Saddam evidently decided not to give us evidence of their destruction. That was a very dangerous game to play — a game Saddam lost.

But the New York Times report on Iraq's pillaged nuclear facility reminds us that Saddam did in fact possess weapons of mass destruction — nuclear materials that could easily have supplied terrorists with "an inestimable quantity of so-called dirty bombs." And that very real danger was only the promise of a full-fledged nuclear bomb a few years down the road. We are all in debt to President Bush for acting, while there was still time, to prevent that disastrous outcome.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; smokinggun; wmd; wmds
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To: Stultis
Precisely, and I'm seeing plenty of evidence that he had programs or the capability to start them up when the heat was off. Furthermore, it has to be pointed out that after 9/11, the prudent thing to do was to assume the worst and ACT on that basis.

In a way I am pleasantly surprised that we have NOT found massive amounts. I do worry that Saddam passed them on to other countries or to terrorist groups, but at the same time, it looks like we acted in time, before it got worse.
41 posted on 06/09/2003 1:37:39 PM PDT by hchutch ("If you don’t win, you don’t get to put your principles into practice." David Horowitz)
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To: dpwiener
You seem to focus on the almost-purely-semantic issue of "what is a WMD and what isn't", which I find pretty uninteresting.

With regard to preemption of attacks and terror, it doesn't matter whether a dirty nuke "is a WMD" or some other kind of weapon. I am interested in preemption, not in Preventing Things That Are Technically WMDs But Allowing Things That Aren't.

With regard to the legalistic issue of whether Iraq was in violation of relevant UN resolutions, it doesn't matter. The UN resolutions banned Hussein from having certain things. The list was not "things that are technically WMD", after all, one thing on that listed was: unmanned air vehicles. (Which is also Not A WMD by itself.)

42 posted on 06/09/2003 1:38:01 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: billbears; hchutch; Miss Marple
And you're asking us to deny the statements of our own intelligence (CIA) just to support the logic forwarded by the President.

What planet are you from?

You must be from some parallel universe where intelligence agencies always have perfect information about things that other people are desperately trying to keep secret.

43 posted on 06/09/2003 1:38:05 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Stultis
So is the author of this piece the liar or the other authors?
44 posted on 06/09/2003 1:38:14 PM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: Dr. Frank
So you believe violation of UN resolutions is a good enough reason to send US troops to their death?

45 posted on 06/09/2003 1:39:23 PM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: hchutch
The solution lies in the old adage that "The best defense is a good offense."

Well if you're going to go on the offensive (and I agree with you), it's still a good idea to lock up your house prior to leaving.

Doing one should not automatically exclude doing the other.
46 posted on 06/09/2003 1:39:33 PM PDT by mr.pink
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To: hchutch
They have been whining about Republican presidents since 1861 and for similiar reasons. Kicking the asses of tyrants and their RAT allies draws their unremmitting hatred. Consider it the acknowledgement that Good has once again triumphed over Evil.

If they ain't bitching nothing positive is being accomplished.
47 posted on 06/09/2003 1:40:18 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: JohnGalt
So you believe violation of UN resolutions is a good enough reason to send US troops to their death?

No. It's a good enough reason to tell France to shut the hell up, when we've decided to send US troops to their deaths for other reasons.

48 posted on 06/09/2003 1:40:37 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: JohnGalt
Are you saying we should have waited until some American city vanished under a mushroom cloud?
49 posted on 06/09/2003 1:43:51 PM PDT by hchutch ("If you don’t win, you don’t get to put your principles into practice." David Horowitz)
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To: jammer
right--sponsorship of international terrorism is only a minor concern.
50 posted on 06/09/2003 1:45:02 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat (Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
I'd LOVE to hear that little chat in Prague that an Iraqi intelligence officer had with Mohammed Atta explained away. Ditto for that airliner in Salman Pak. As well as the reports from Iraqi defectors. Not to mention the checks to the survivors of murder-suicide bombers.
51 posted on 06/09/2003 1:47:27 PM PDT by hchutch ("If you don’t win, you don’t get to put your principles into practice." David Horowitz)
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To: jammer
Sure and the terrorist camps destroyed and tons of weaponry including suicide vests could have never been used against Americans, could they?

Terrorist ties were the most important reason to destroy Saddam. Removing him has undercut our enemies across the globe. He sponsored/assisted at least three terrorist attacks within this country. No more

Information agreed to across the globe clearly showed weapons programs and the existence of weapons. If he had nothing to hide, why did he work so hard at impeding the inspectors? Why didn't he just show the world that he had destroyed everything? A world willing to suspend disbelief in order to humiliate Bush? There is only one rational answer to that question.
52 posted on 06/09/2003 1:48:31 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: dpwiener
Correct---if Saddam or other terrorists were to use these so-called "dirty bombs", it would be no big deal. Only a few thousand would be killed rather than millions. The fact anyone would be concerned about these things in the hands of terrorists is a very sad commentary on the state of ignorance in this country.
53 posted on 06/09/2003 1:49:02 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat (Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
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To: hchutch
Do you think that is some kind of thought provoking question or something? Or is a black and white world the only way you can make sense of the events that transpire?

The goverment should have fired and stripped the pensions of every federal law enforcement and bureaucratic official remotely associated with terrorism after 9/11. The borders should have been sealed and every questionable character sent back to their home country. The FAA should have repealed their own law barring firearm possession on airplanes and let individual commercial lines set their own carry-on weapons policy.

Had they done that, I would have been happy to listen to your boogeyman theories.


54 posted on 06/09/2003 1:51:51 PM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: Poohbah
Lincoln hatred has destroyed his ability to think straight. It is a common phenomenon seen around FR.
55 posted on 06/09/2003 1:52:02 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: dpwiener
Drugs are bad for you.
56 posted on 06/09/2003 1:54:59 PM PDT by Tempest
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To: JohnGalt
You tell them. Even though what you said is in no way relevant to the question asked, it's good that you are putting these bozos in their place.
57 posted on 06/09/2003 1:55:51 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat (Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
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To: JohnGalt
RAve on. Mexican terrorists are still bringing over WMDs aren't they? Seems like everyday I hear of a new bean dish. Chemical warfare at its most deadly is being unleashed in Mex restraunts across the land as we speak.

Oh, if only you were in charge how safe I would feel.
58 posted on 06/09/2003 1:56:41 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: JohnGalt; Poohbah
No, I was asking a serious question. The fact you refuse to even answer it speaks volumes, if you ask me.

Did we have an intelligence failure prior to 9/11? No question about it. A big part was due to limitations and restrictions placed on it by the Left dating back to the Church Committee hearings, and also in the mid-90s.

For nearly three decades prior to then, we gutted the intelligence community. We tied their hands behind their back, and then we wondered why they weren't so effective.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=95001164
59 posted on 06/09/2003 1:59:22 PM PDT by hchutch ("If you don’t win, you don’t get to put your principles into practice." David Horowitz)
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To: JohnGalt
The goverment should have fired and stripped the pensions of every federal law enforcement and bureaucratic official remotely associated with terrorism after 9/11.

Now there's a plan. Fire them all.

Fire all of the tranlators, electronics experts, analysts, weapons experts, bio-war experts, chemists, FBI agents, CIA operatives undercover overseas, satellite map readers. Fire them all.

And you expect people to pay attention to your opinion for exactly what reason?

60 posted on 06/09/2003 2:02:42 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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