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Why We Cannot Shake the Clintons
IntellectualConservative.com ^ | June 13, 2003 | Brian S. Wise

Posted on 06/14/2003 7:06:32 PM PDT by az4vlad

"The Clintons are swingers," and other suggestions as to their behavior.

The New York Times has published a review of Hillary Clinton’s book that is, to put it mildly, not kind. (Yes, that New York Times.) Wrote Michiko Kakutani: “It is a book that purports to deal with the many controversies and scandals in Bill Clinton’s campaigns and presidency, presumably to get these issues behind her before she contemplates running for the White House herself. Yet the book skates over the problems the Clinton administration faced in its rocky debut and in the impeachment crisis and skims over details of matters like Whitewater and ‘travelgate’ while expending a startling amount of space on her trips abroad and her personal appearance.”

Yet this is just one of many, many reviews to follow. They will exist because a great number of people are interested in knowing more. So much so, Living History set a record for first day nonfiction sales (200,000), prompting Simon and Schuster to print 300,000 more copies, bringing the total thus far to 1.3 million. It will probably sell over one million copies. Fine. But if it sold 20 million copies, those sales get us no closer to discovering why people are interested.

Maybe because the Clintons have left so many very relevant questions unanswered, a thing that irritates those who care about or examine relevant presidencies. Another reason is that people are looking for clues that explain how the Clintons got this way … they have at times seemed so odd it defied explanation. This is why the Monica Lewinsky questions have begun again: Either you accept Hillary Clinton’s explanation as to the day she learned the truth of Lewinsky or you do not. But hers is the definitive insider’s word, as Bill Clinton, in his book, surely dare not say: that 21-year-old flesh just feels better than 50-year-old flesh, even if the 21-year-old is a little overweight.

One appreciates Mrs. Clinton’s difficulties in discussing The Other Women; there are few married women in similar positions who savor the opportunity to talk about their husband’s infidelity. It is still an intriguing story because we like to believe every house should be built with glass walls, and it fills a certain voyeuristic need to know her reaction to the DNA stained dress. But there had been so many women before … even if she was aware of only a small percentage she was aware of a decent-sized number. One wonders if the Lewinsky matter is covered in Living History because she, Lewinsky, was the most notable circumstance. The consistent hope among too many people (not including yours truly) is that one day Hillary will slip and say whatever it is various people are hoping to hear.

The contention here has long been that Bill Clinton suffers from some low grade mental illness (it was most recently suggested in this space two weeks ago); a further contention now being that Hillary Clinton has not only known and understood the illness, but has catered to it, so long as things were kept quiet. In other words, the Clinton marriage is an open one, in the masculine direction. That is not the sort of thing widely appreciated in the States; large enough percentages of the populace are decadent enough to draw notice, but the country as a whole is by no means European enough in its mindset to except swinging as the wholesale reason for the Clinton sexual controversies.

But how best to explain the Right’s, well, low grade obsession with the Clintons? It has never seemed to ebb, only flow, and it has lead to the most recent wave of accusations that the Right has nothing better to do than relive the entire Clinton administration. There are a few correct answers. One is that there are hardly any alternatives; it was not the Right that created the media furor over Living History, though it was happy to join the fray as an editing presence … the same freedom that allows the senator to say one thing allows the Right to question her recollection, or wonder whether hers was at all truthful. If the Right believes Hillary Clinton is lying, they should be compelled to explain how.

For another, how many Leftists have completely been able to let go of the Reagan administration, the head of which has not made an overt political movement since the 1992 Republican convention? I speak for the Right when I say: I would be more than happy to ignore the Clintons, if only they would go away.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billclinton; hillaryclinton; hillarysbook; livinghistory; president; presidue; swingers
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1 posted on 06/14/2003 7:06:32 PM PDT by az4vlad
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To: az4vlad
"The contention here has long been that Bill Clinton suffers from some low grade mental illness "

Low grade? He is a pathological narcissist at the very least, if not a sociopath.

2 posted on 06/14/2003 7:12:54 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: az4vlad
The Clinton's are a symptom, not the disease.
3 posted on 06/14/2003 7:15:29 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: az4vlad
It is the media that has the obsession with the Clintons. Just like they currently have an obsession with the Laci/Scott Peterson case.

It is the media's obsession. If the media weren't so blinded and enamoured by the Clintons, the Clintons would sink into obscurity--but then, the media won't allow that to happen.

The media is as fixiated on the Clintons as the Clintons are on media attention. As with the co-dependency in the Clinton marriage, the media are co-dependents of the Clintons.
4 posted on 06/14/2003 7:20:52 PM PDT by TomGuy
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Was flipping through channels and there was Bill Clinton a short time ago on Larry King -- took my all of 10 seconds or less to keep on going. CNN LOVES the Clintons and pushes them at every opportunity not to mention other media members like Rather!
5 posted on 06/14/2003 7:22:23 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: az4vlad
"The New York Times has published a negative review of Hillary's book."

My friends, the book must be plain awful.
6 posted on 06/14/2003 7:22:55 PM PDT by rs79bm (The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit ... R. Limbaugh)
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To: PhiKapMom
I bet ya to it! Took me only 5 seconds!
7 posted on 06/14/2003 7:23:27 PM PDT by rs79bm (The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit ... R. Limbaugh)
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To: az4vlad
I always shake my "Clinton" right after going to the bathroom, sometimes I even have to wipe my "Hillary".
8 posted on 06/14/2003 7:24:03 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
The Clinton's are a symptom, not the disease.

Bingo.

Corrupted electorate bump.

9 posted on 06/14/2003 7:27:27 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: rs79bm
LOL!!! I couldn't believe it -- I was talking to someone on IM and told them I thought I saw Clinton but had to go back and check -- one quick look and changed channels the second time. Some bald headed guy was with him but didn't stay around long enough to see who it was.

10 posted on 06/14/2003 7:27:40 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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But how best to explain the Right’s, well, low grade obsession with the Clintons?

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1) Because the Clintons represent most of what has been wrong with this nation for the last nearly 40 years.

2) Because it is infuriating that the Clintons are not questioned in critical places where it counts, Eighty-nine percent of the Washington press corps voted for the Clintons and support the clintons.

11 posted on 06/14/2003 7:29:36 PM PDT by RLK
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To: TomGuy
Exactly. You don't see the media asking Bush I his opinion on every freakin' thing that goes on.. but they sure seem to find out and print Clintons reactions to things, don't they?

Just like that brain dead slut, Paula Zahn, who cheered, on TV when a state was called for Gore during the last elections, they are so biased that they can't even comprehend that they are biased.
12 posted on 06/14/2003 7:31:43 PM PDT by LaraCroft ('Bout time)
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Well, it's not positive, but it's not nearly as negative as it might be. Michiko Kakutani is a very smart reviewer, but she stumbles around in this review as if she can hardly put her mind to it or can hardly admit what the real problems are.

Surely nobody could be stupid enough to read Hillary Clinton in order to find out the truth. As for the "right," we will continue to be "obsessed" by the clintons as long as long as they continue to run one of the country's two major parties and obviously plan to put Hillary in the White House. We're supposed to ignore something as big as that? Or ignore the way the press continues to spin and lie for these scum?

The real reason people are obsessed by the clintons is that they can't help wondering how many crimes can these people can commit and still retain the loyal subservience of at least third of our country? The clintons are the very essence of America's liberal decay, and as long as the liberals continue to lick their toes they will continue to be in the spotlight.
13 posted on 06/14/2003 7:32:59 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: az4vlad
"But how best to explain the Right’s, well, low grade obsession with the Clintons? It has never seemed to ebb, only flow, and it has lead to the most recent wave of accusations that the Right has nothing better to do than relive the entire Clinton administration."

Yup. I even make popcorn to munch along with this Soap. Hey, I love to see them singlehandedly burning the entire democrat party. I just can't wait. Bill was on Larry King tonight spreading somemore napalm all over the ~other white meat~ you know, the guys who think they are running against GW. Actually, they are still running against Clinton for the party nomination.

Pass the chips.
14 posted on 06/14/2003 7:35:27 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Using pretentious arcane words to buttress your argument means you don't have one)
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To: rs79bm; PhiKapMom
HA! .. I beat you both .. I never turned it on
15 posted on 06/14/2003 7:37:16 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: Mo1
LOL!!! That will teach me to not include CNN when flipping through channels!
16 posted on 06/14/2003 7:39:33 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: az4vlad
"Maybe because the Clintons have left so many very relevant questions unanswered, a thing that irritates those who care about or examine relevant presidencies."

Bill Clinton broke the law and the Republicans let him off the hook

Al Gore Broke The Law and Republicans let him off the hook.

What we need is the tough Newt Gingrich back.

"As far back as April 7, 1998, then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich was asked on NBC’s Today if he were going to press for impeachment. His response: "No, we don’t have any evidence."
Source.

"I don’t care if you have proof that he raped a woman, stood up and shot her dead, you’re still not going to get 67 votes."

Bush Says He Wants to Let Clinton 'Move On'
"Listen, here's my view: I think it's time to get all of this business behind us. I think it's time ... to allow the president to finish his term, and let him move on and enjoy life and become an active participant in the American system. And I think we've had enough focus on the past. It's time to move forward." - George W. Bush.

Bush Won't Dwell On Clinton Affair, "We're Moving Forward"
"B/S, Mr Bush. Clinton is a criminal and a traitor. We demand a thorough investigation and prosecution. Our Republic is dead and our liberty is at stake if the next administration does not clean up this mess for now and forever more. Corrupt politicians must pay the price for subverting our Constitution and using their offices for personal gain."
4 Posted on 01/20/2000 14:17:56 PST by Jim Robinson

Rah, Rah, Rah

17 posted on 06/14/2003 7:42:39 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: PhiKapMom
See how easy that is .. LOL

Actually I saw the commerical promoting it earlier and I remembered to avoid CNN tonight ..

Oh BTW .. her name was Charlotte Dawson
18 posted on 06/14/2003 7:42:42 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: Mo1
Thanks for that info!

I didn't realize the slime was going to be on! I can see why you avoided CNN tonight!
19 posted on 06/14/2003 7:46:28 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: PhiKapMom
Warning .. Hellary will be on tomorrow night
20 posted on 06/14/2003 7:47:11 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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