[El Gato]

Yep. BTW: Isn't the ATF now in the Department of Homeland Security?

Justice Department. and it's BATFE, not ATF, inspite of what they'd like to think. Always use the full five letter designation. It means they are one step lower on the peaking order, and they hate that. They'd like to be thought of as a three letter agency, like FBI or DEA, but they aren't.

[OldCorps]

One of the best things i ever saw on a t shirt:

Alchohol
Tobacco
Firearms

Who's bringing the chips?

[Travis McGee]

I get into the entire ATF-BATF-BATFE thing in great detail in my novel. The BATFag characters of course always call themselves ATF. Pro-gun characters call them the BATF or F-Troop, jack-booted thugs etc.