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To: Polycarp
Every four years without fail, Christians are bamboozled into believing that their beloved Republican Party will restore this nation to its Christian heritage.

Ain't gonna happen.

The majority of people in this country do not wish to live under a theocracy. The Republicans know this.

If the Republicans ran under a platform of "restoring this nation to its Christian heritage" they would not win many elections --not the ones that count, anyways.

9 posted on 06/29/2003 11:42:05 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
The "theocracy" cliche is worn out, OK?
12 posted on 06/29/2003 11:45:57 AM PDT by Polycarp (To all hiding out in theReligionForumGhetto-It's time to fight the CultureOfDeath on the NewsForum)
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To: Drew68
If the Republicans ran under a platform of "restoring this nation to its Christian heritage" they would not win many elections --not the ones that count, anyways.

Maybe not, but the platform can reflect it without explicitly saying it. And then if the elected officials would kindly follow through....
23 posted on 06/29/2003 11:59:24 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Drew68
"...do not wish to live under a theocracy."

Look up "theocracy" in the dictionary and here is what you will find:

    Theocracy. 1. Government of a state by the immediate direction or administration of God; hence, government or political rule by priests or clergy as representatives of God.

    2. A state so governed, as the Hebrew commonwealth before it became a kingdom.

    Webster's New International Dictionary, 2nd edn, unabridged, 1959, p. 2619

No one has proposed "rule by clergy," so your argument is a red herring. We have always had laws intended to support moral order and for a very simple and obvious reason -- only a moral people are fit for self-governance and freedom. This was self-evident to the Founders.

Are you in favor of incest? How about polygamy? Does public indecency appeal to you? Is it ok with you if people parade themselves nude in front of parents and children in public parks? Engage in sexual activity in front of same?

Where do you (personally) draw the line or do you draw the line at all?

Walk into the Supreme Court and look at what's on the wall there. It's a bas relief of Moses handing down the Ten Commandments. Why do you think it's there? Could it be because our system of law ultimately derives from the Judeo-Christian tradition?

38 posted on 06/29/2003 12:15:27 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Drew68
"The majority of people in this country do not wish to live under a theocracy. The Republicans know this."

Living with laws that reflect Christian morals and values is infinitely different than living in a theocracy, where the rulers are unelected tyrant clerics and heirarchical leaders within a particular religion. America did just fine, thank you, for nearly 200 years, living under our Constitution and in basic accordance with sound Christian values. It wasn't until the 1960's that Christian norms, morals and values began to get overthrown and undermined by the Courts. Abolishing school prayer, legalizing abortion, granting 'minority status' and special rights to sexual perverts, allowing for divorce-on-a-whim, and the plethora of other illogical, anti-Christian sewage that became case law through the Courts. The way I see it, either Christians unite and take back what God gave us by voting out the liberals and phoney "conservatives", or else get used to the rancid stench of perversion that is rapidly permeating our society.

42 posted on 06/29/2003 12:20:00 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Drew68
The majority of people in this country do not wish to live under a theocracy.

Hey bozo -- is that what we had for the first 180 years of our existence as a republic until the Supreme court decided that everyone had a right to pornography, abortion, and sodomy? Of course not. The "theocracy" argument is a completely specious canard. You should be ashamed of yourself.
43 posted on 06/29/2003 12:20:03 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Drew68; unspun
If the Republicans ran under a platform of "restoring this nation to its Christian heritage" they would not win many elections --not the ones that count, anyways.

Please explain to me how acknowleding one's traditional heritage -- the one in which the DoI and Constitution are firmly rooted -- necessarily involves establishing a theocracy, Drew68.

And while you're at it, would you kindly explain to me from what text in the Constitution have the federal courts received any grant whatever to rule on issues involving sexuality? Are you comfortable with the federal government unilaterally writing the moral code for our nation?

99 posted on 06/29/2003 2:20:15 PM PDT by betty boop (We can have either human dignity or unfettered liberty, but not both. -- Dean Clancy)
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To: Drew68
If they ran on a platform of keeping the Federal government out of state issues, so that we didn't have two layers of government pissing away money regulating each other, they could do well.
177 posted on 06/29/2003 6:17:22 PM PDT by Iconoclast2
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To: Drew68
The majority of people in this country do not wish to live under a theocracy

THat is ridiculous, Drew. We didn't live under a theocracy in the beginning yet managed to uphold moral, ethical standards of behavior for the most part. Contrast that to today when perversion is rampant and deviancy applauded, and our children are just falling to the bottom of the pit.
285 posted on 06/29/2003 10:37:55 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: Drew68
The majority of people in this country do not wish to live under a theocracy.

I'm afraid you're right. But if you trace the slide of european history from the Holy Roman empire down through Nazi Germany, you might see that disestablishment is not necessarily a good thing.

When it comes to understanding history, follow the philosophy.

388 posted on 06/30/2003 11:58:32 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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