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The Alliance for Marriage and the Federal Marriage Amendment
http://www.allianceformarriage.org/reports/030304/030304.htm

Posted on 06/29/2003 8:56:49 PM PDT by Antoninus

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Anyone still think this is a losing issue?

Let's get moving on this, people!
1 posted on 06/29/2003 8:56:49 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
Oops. Screwed up the link above. It's here:


2 posted on 06/29/2003 8:58:02 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus
I mean here (sorry!):

The Alliance for Marriage
3 posted on 06/29/2003 8:59:07 PM PDT by Antoninus (Preview is your friend)
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To: Antoninus; NittanyLion
Here is one possible answer to the question you posed about minorities and marriage.
4 posted on 06/29/2003 8:59:52 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: PhiKapMom
FYI
5 posted on 06/29/2003 9:01:17 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Antoninus
Click here for:

Alliance for Marriage


6 posted on 06/29/2003 9:01:31 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: Antoninus; Brandonmark; Alex P. Keaton; MeeknMing; JohnHuang2; Dog Gone; Dog; isthisnickcool; ...
Thanks for posting this! We really do need to get on board this! Enough is enough!
7 posted on 06/29/2003 9:01:55 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: Mo1
LOL!!! You beat me -- I was just doing a ping!
8 posted on 06/29/2003 9:02:29 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: Antoninus
Another thing that is needed is an ammendment allowing for the states to be able to overturn Supreme Court decisions. I think that if 3/4ths of the state legislatures vote to overturn a Supreme Court decision within two years of its being issued, that Supreme Court decesion should be null and void.
9 posted on 06/29/2003 9:03:39 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Go Al Go!)
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To: Antoninus
It's a noble effort, but I have serious doubts it will succeed. I think enthusiasm for it will got the way support for a flag burning ammendment or the ERA did. A slow loss of momentum till it becomes non viable.
10 posted on 06/29/2003 9:06:23 PM PDT by templar
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To: PhiKapMom
Thanks for posting this! We really do need to get on board this! Enough is enough!

I neither support nor oppose the Amendment. Whether or not the Congress passes and the States ratify this Amendment is fine by me. I'm just intrigued to find out the dimensions & outcome of this historic cultural battle.

11 posted on 06/29/2003 9:07:02 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Another thing that is needed is an ammendment allowing for the states to be able to overturn Supreme Court decisions.

Umm.. That's precisely what Amendments are for..

12 posted on 06/29/2003 9:08:06 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I think that if 3/4ths of the state legislatures vote to overturn a Supreme Court decision within two years of its being issued, that Supreme Court decesion should be null and void.

That's basically what a constitutional ammendment does now. The only way the States have of acting in unison on an issue is through Congress (Senate represents the States, House of Representatives represents the people).

13 posted on 06/29/2003 9:10:34 PM PDT by templar
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To: Antoninus; .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; aposiopetic; Aquinasfan; ...
Anyone still think this is a losing issue?

Winston Churchill (The Gathering Storm, p348):

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

14 posted on 06/29/2003 9:13:05 PM PDT by Polycarp
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If this makes it out of the Congress, I've counted exactly 38 states [the required minimum] that I think likely to ratify. The key hurdle will be the U.S. House & Senate.
15 posted on 06/29/2003 9:13:11 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: PhiKapMom; scripter; Polycarp; Claud; Kryptonite; Rebellans; Luis Gonzalez; Fred Mertz; ...
Ping....

Invoking the "Appeal to ping list" for those of you with them.
16 posted on 06/29/2003 9:13:20 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: templar
It's a noble effort, but I have serious doubts it will succeed. I think enthusiasm for it will got the way support for a flag burning ammendment or the ERA did. A slow loss of momentum till it becomes non viable.

Perhaps. But I'm one of those annoying optimists.....
17 posted on 06/29/2003 9:15:02 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Polycarp
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

Well done. I always loved this quote.
18 posted on 06/29/2003 9:16:17 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: AntiGuv
If this makes it out of the Congress, I've counted exactly 38 states [the required minimum] that I think likely to ratify.

It'll be one H#LL of a fight. I think it'll get real, real partisan. How many of those States that are likely are Demon controlled?

19 posted on 06/29/2003 9:16:51 PM PDT by templar
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To: templar
t's basically what a constitutional ammendment does now

Except that I would omit the involvement of the House and Senate; they are part of the problem. Quite a number of Supreme Court decisions are made favoring concentration of power in Washington DC and against the states. If the Supreme Court knew that it's decisions could be overturned by the collective actions of a supermajority of the states, there would be a greater incentive for moderation in the decisions of the Supreme Court.

20 posted on 06/29/2003 9:17:32 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Go Al Go!)
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