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To: breakem
Made up rights? Who says the rights enumerated in the BOR are the only ones? You?
58 posted on 07/06/2003 2:47:45 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Perzactly. We have the right to expect that all members of our society adhere to the kindness of religious morality, and we have the right to decide what kind of a society we are to live in, and our children and grandchildren have a right to their own innocence."

The fact that all rights are not listed in the constitution does not allow you to make them up. Where did you get the idea that anyone has to adhere to your idea of "the kindness of religious morality." The constitution specifically prohibits government from support yoiur religion. So tell me how your view of religious morality must be adhered to by others and why it does not interfere with their rights to force your view upon them.

I was here one night when another poster explained to you that rights are an individual concept and not collective. I guess you didn't get the gist.

When you say you have the right to decide what kind of society you live in, you are correct. You can move to a theocracy that imposes your beliefs upon others or you can live in the US where we are free from such impositions. And who is "we" anyway?

59 posted on 07/06/2003 2:52:46 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Cultural Jihad
Made up rights? Who says the rights enumerated in the BOR are the only ones? You?

Or you sir? Or 6 people in black robes? You have yet to offer anything besides assertion to indicate that homosexual conduct is a right protected by the 9th amendment. If you are so certain,you must have some evidence beyond mere assertion. You have completely ignored the harm it can do to society as a whole. Wether you want to look at the Declaration of Independence, or the Preamble to the Constition, you can find evidence that government is not just about protecting individual rights, it's also about "The General Welfare", "domestic Tranquility", and "the public good". Where is your evidence that anyone prior to 1791 and after the fall of Rome, thought that homosexual acts were among the "rights ... retained by the people" to use the words of the 9th amendment.

Certainly there are more "inalienable rights" than those listed in the Bill of Rights, or in the entire Constitution for that matter, the right to travel for example. But you can't just make up rights to suit yourself and your individual beliefs either.

72 posted on 07/07/2003 3:33:43 PM PDT by El Gato
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