[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Consider the freshman class at the nation's most elite university. App 1625-1650 accepted. Guaranteed, 500 rich foreigners, 500 AlGore legacy dunces, 500 affirmative action cases.

Thirty thousand unconnected, middle class or lower white applicants fighting for the 125-150 free spaces.

[Dr. Frank fan]

Thirty thousand unconnected, middle class or lower white applicants fighting for the 125-150 free spaces.

That's part of the story. The great untold story of course is that deserving, hard-working, talented, intelligent Asian-American students are really screwed by this educational caste system.

It's enough to make you wonder why "liberals" dislike Asian-Americans so much.

[randog]

Thirty thousand unconnected, middle class or lower white applicants fighting for the 125-150 free spaces.

I think elite universities and the mad scramble to attain a pedigree are way overblown. My brother and I grew up middle class and attended the same State U while our rich cousins attended UC Berkley and various expensive private colleges. My brother and I now own cabins at the lake while our cousins rent time-share condos. It's not so much where you went to college but what you do with what you got.