Posted on 07/08/2003 7:08:39 AM PDT by F_Cohen
I have no data on that. I suspect they are much much smaller. The vast majority of people who are attracted to their own sex aren't even remotely interested in pedophila. But the paranoia runs high.
Off topic comment by me, but I am always amazed that homosexuality draws as much attention as it does while our hetrosexual children have been assaulted from every angle by people who have legitimized premarital sexual activity in thier minds.
Homosexuality is disgusting, but not worse than other sexual sin, and not nearly as dangerous to society. Most people will never ever be attracted to their own sex, but huge numbers are happy to embrace sexual licence so they can satisfy themselves.
You know, I have been trying to figure this out. I have never known law enforcement to consider age by way of fractions, or rounding off.
As far as I can tell, from a legal standpoint, a 17-year-old remains 17 until their 18th birthday. Why anyone would be debating this is both pointless and silly.
Can anyone defend this?
I strongly disagree, or at least I disagree with your definition of right thinking people. Good gracious, man, Michael Jordan or James Carville or even Harry Potter can legitimize conduct in the minds of much of our populace. Maybe you wouldn't call them "right thinking people" but they have a huge impact on your and my futures.
Jeff Jacoby pointed out that once Vermont created homosexual unions, 2,000 married men from Massachusetts got divorced and went across the border to "marry" their homosexual lover. While it is likely that a large number of them would have divorced for their "lover" anyway, we can't discount a number of them (5%, 10%, 2%) who decided it must be OK if it's legal. That's somewhere between 40 and 200 families ruined because government legitimized homosexual unions.
It is true that you and I will recognize it as wrong regardless, but most people don't think like you and I.
And I guess that's a good thing.
Shalom.
I would not bet on that. It took the homosexuals 30 years to get where they are now. And it started by and large with the removal of homosexuality from mental health textbooks. The fact they are even discussing doing the same with pedophilia should all by itself be enough to scare the hell out of you.
As all through history. None of this affected my family. I can't do anything about what others think other than speak my mind. I do not advocate violence or the threat thereof to attempt to do so.
My grown children never thought anything was OK because someone else said so. Whether or not they were pop figures or government employees. If they started down that road, we disabused them of the idea. They have turned out fine. And I am confident their children will also.
Government don't make people married, promises before God do. People of the same sex cannot be married, despite what they call it.
No man is an island. What you tolerate has an impact on you, or your children, or your children's children's children. You may not have connected the dots on how, for example, free love has impacted your family, but it is there.
Government's purpose (as stated by the Bible, not by the DoI) is to restrain evil. If it can not do that (and I'll agree with you that many have perpetrated evil) then it can not protect rights.
Shalom.
I don't tolerate it, you may have misinterpreted that.
You may not have connected the dots on how, for example, free love has impacted your family, but it is there.
I understand how things affect other things, which is precisely why I head the trouble off instead of hiding my head in the sand or advocating violence to do what cannot be done.
Government's purpose (as stated by the Bible, not by the DoI) is to restrain evil.
DoI?
In anycase, I disagree if you mean that everyone must conform to your or my bible's definition of evil.
I'll settle for saying it is evil to violate the rights of others. God can and will sort it out when the time comes, in the mean time putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.
They don't even catch all of the people who are engaging in this (let alone those who would like to but have not).
The arrest records (not convictions or plea bargains) would be an underrepresented count of those who are for this.
It would not justify lowering the age of consent in any way, I'm just pointing out that just because they are a deviant minority who's actions are outlawed, the same argument held against homosexuality for a long time. I am referring to all people who pursue minors too, not just homosexuals or heterosexuals.
I was just asking which practice (homosexuality or pedophilia) had more followers.
I've been arguing on this thread that the states do no favors by endorsing teen sex (with romeo & juliet laws, free condoms in schools, and nurses who take girls to the abortionist). Since the states do condone such behavior ("we might as well acknowledge that kids are going to have sex and make the best of the situation") they open the door for the age of consent to continue to creep downward. After all, an adult male can better provide for a young pregnant girl than a high school aged boy. Doesn't justify adult child relations but it makes as much sense as encouring kids to have sex with each other.
These work through hormone supression. When these kids are in high school their bodies are just beginning to undergo hormonal changes. Supressing those hormones (through the use of birth control devices) does not sound healthy.
Define "underage abortion". Under 18? It's legal.
Planned Parenthood has even put up challenges to attempts to require parental notification when minors seek abortions.
Minors cannot consent to any medical procedure (except this one).
Planned Parenthood is also not happy with attempts to make them report underage sexual molestation like all other professionals are required.
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