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To: Dr Warmoose
Well, you seem like a really smart person and I thank you for the civilized discussion. I'm not much for words, being pretty young and still trying to solidify my own personal philosophy.

For a really interesting read, I think you should check out "Libertarianism: A Primer" by Cato Executive Vice President David Boaz. I'm about 100 pages into it and it's a great read regarding Natural Rights, the nature of rights, the libertarian philosophy, famous historical libertarians, etc etc. It's quite fascinating.

To finish the discussion, I would argue that simply being stoned or drunk, and walking around... what's wrong with that? You're not hurting anyone, you're certainly not causing any trouble, there is no potential for harm, etc. It seems like a silly example, to be honest. What about drinking a 5th of whiskey and taking a walk?

Check out the David Boaz book, it's interesting.

Thanks for the chat...
71 posted on 07/10/2003 12:34:39 PM PDT by bc2
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To: bc2
So I went to cato.org to see the write-up on the book you recommended

In the book, Boaz traces the history of libertarian thought, producing a concise yet thorough treatment of the subject. He then goes on to discuss why libertarianism is morally just...

Here is the fundamental flaw in Libertarianism spelled out in cato.org's own assesment. They talk about "morally just" but consider their views on shooting up drugs, prostitution, religion free America, wide-open borders, homosexual "marriages" and abortion-on-demand, as moral. Since the term "moral" now has been hijacked to mean "whatever I want to do, restricted by only my personal judgments and inhibitions" this doesn't sound like "morality" it sounds like "flexible values". Since "morality" by definition comes from an immutable, absolute source, I find nothing within their concept of morality - particularly since many devoteés of Libertarianism are outright hostile to anything Christian, which observes a code of law five thousand years old.

85 posted on 07/10/2003 2:38:02 PM PDT by Dr Warmoose (I just LOVE to rant.)
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