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Time for the "Stupid" Party to shed its stupidity since we know the Evil party will not shed its Evil.
1 posted on 07/23/2003 10:03:09 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Some comments about your book.
2 posted on 07/23/2003 10:05:29 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
BTTT
3 posted on 07/23/2003 10:07:39 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Product Details

5 posted on 07/23/2003 10:15:24 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: justshutupandtakeit; GOPcapitalist; Constitution Day
It traces the origins of the GOP to the proto-Republican, Alexander Hamilton, and the Federalists and that of the Democrat Party to its ancestors Jefferson, Clinton and Burr.

Well, Hamilton argued for big centralized government, internal improvements, a national bank, and a monarch to boot. Jefferson argued for federalism and the rights of the states to offset the powers of the federal government. Today, in theory we have Democrats calling for even more of Hamilton's ideals and again theoretically, Republicans calling for limited government and more power locally more along the lines of Jefferson. That being said, both parties in reality have hooked on full force to the ideals of that king worshipper Hamilton.

BTW, justshutup, how is a monarchy not really a monarchy? And yes I have read the book. Talk about revisionism.....

8 posted on 07/23/2003 10:21:02 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Having not read the book, I reserve comment to your review and Partisan's FR posts - neither are convincing.

The review is void of facts and details but makes broad-sweeping assumptions. Is the book the same way?

30 posted on 07/23/2003 11:55:07 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: justshutupandtakeit
partisian

Didn't even spell it correctly.

99 posted on 07/23/2003 8:56:39 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: justshutupandtakeit
BTTT
143 posted on 07/24/2003 8:07:58 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: justshutupandtakeit
A book seeking to distance the Republican Party from the turn it took with Goldwater, is a book seeking to turn the Republican Party to the Left--a form of neo-Abolitionism, if you will, no longer seeking the abolition of slavery--for we have not had slavery in a very long time--but abolition of the entire American heritage.

Consider this statement in your initial rant:

Since the GOP was created and grew in opposition to the policies and failures of the Democrat Party to extend the benefits of the Constitution to all Americans, that party's history is also examined.

Just what sort of "history" are you offering? Or let me make a point, without being cute or rhetorical. Since you have claimed a Hamiltonian root for the Republican Party, and certainly cannot deny the Republican credentials of Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican President, please share with us what specific Constitutional benefits that Hamilton or Lincoln set out to extend to "all Americans?"

I know that you do not refer to the suffrage, because the Constitutional benefit to the suffrage was defined as being that determined separately in each State. It is also very clear, that neither Hamilton nor Lincoln favored what would be considered universal male suffrage, today.

But I do not want to put words into your mouth.

It is obvious that, for whatever reason, you do not want a broad based Republican Party. You want to bring back the Republican Party of the Radical Reconstructionists--the hate crazed zealots, who sought to punish the South for the War. This lunacy would be funny, if you were not undermining the fight to maintain the very Constitution, you claim to be supporting.

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179 posted on 07/24/2003 10:53:12 AM PDT by Ohioan
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233 posted on 07/24/2003 7:09:19 PM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Every advance in Civil Rights for Blacks has come from GOP initiatives and against Democrat opposition.

that's an interesting claim from a book out to "set the record straight."

260 posted on 07/25/2003 7:41:30 AM PDT by jethropalerobber
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To: justshutupandtakeit; SamAdams76; PJ-Comix
Good one!
335 posted on 07/26/2003 10:30:29 AM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Jefferson, Clinton

It should be a crime to have these names in the same sentence.

370 posted on 07/26/2003 4:57:14 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: justshutupandtakeit
In order to effectively plan for the future we must be fully aware of the past,

The triumph of the mob is just as evil a thing as the triumph of the plutocracy, and to have escaped one danger avails nothing whatever if we succumb to the other. In the end the honest man, whether rich or poor, who earns his own living and tries to deal justly by his fellows, has as much to fear from the insincere and unworthy demagog, promising much and performing nothing, or else performing nothing but evil, who would set on the mob to plunder the rich, as from the crafty corruptionist, who, for his own ends, would permit the common people to be exploited by the very wealthy. If we ever let this Government fall into the hands of men of either of these two classes, we shall show ourselves false to America's past. Moreover, the demagog and the corruptionist often work hand in hand. There are at this moment wealthy reactionaries of such obtuse morality that they regard the public servant who prosecutes them when they violate the law, or who seeks to make them bear their proper share of the public burdens, as being even more objectionable than the violent agitator who hounds on the mob to plunder the rich. There is nothing to choose between such a reactionary and such an agitator; fundamentally they are alike in their selfish disregard of the rights of others; and it is natural that they should join in opposition to any movement of which the aim is fearlessly to do exact and even justice to all.

~ Theodore Roosevelt, 6th Annual Message to Congress, December 3, 1906


461 posted on 07/28/2003 1:08:15 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: DolceAmara; Treasa
fyi
517 posted on 07/30/2003 9:58:46 PM PDT by jla
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To: justshutupandtakeit
author Michael Zak (FR's distinguished patriot, Grand Old Partisian) = warped yankee idiot, and a government supremacist to boot.
582 posted on 08/01/2003 10:58:20 AM PDT by UncleDudley
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I'm sad that I only found this post 2 months late... :o(

I'll have to get a copy of the book, looks interesting...

783 posted on 09/08/2003 8:49:21 AM PDT by RedWing9 (No tag here... Just want to stay vague...)
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