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How YOU Can Help Tom McClintock become Governor! (Vanity/Promotion)
Pubbie | 08/08/03 | Pubbie

Posted on 08/08/2003 10:01:05 AM PDT by Pubbie

Arnold Schwarzenegger is not experienced enough to run for Governor, and so far he has not said specificly what he is going to do to help the state of California.

The man with the experience to save California is Tom McClintock, and all conservatives should try to help him get elected.

You can help Tom McClintock by calling Talk Show Hosts in California and any national Talk Show Hosts, and ask them to publicly endorse McClintock on their radion shows, and tell their listeners to go out and vote for McClintock (If their listeners live in California).

Here are a list of local California Radio Show Hosts I found off Google:

"Dennis Prager" "The John and Ken Show" "Bob (aka B-1) Dornan"

National Hosts:

"Rush Limbaugh" "The Laura Ingraham Show"

For Tom McClintock's Campaign Site:

http://www.tommcclintock.com/


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California
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Thank you all for your attention!
1 posted on 08/08/2003 10:01:06 AM PDT by Pubbie
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To: Pubbie
To be honest, I haven't HEARD everyone yet. I was impressed with what I did hear from Arnold so far, though I havenn't heard nearly enough! He DOES have a degree in Economics, and he can't be bought by special interests. He DOES have experience in running very successful bussinesses, and to be honest... everything he has ever done has been HUGELY successful. He would attract Democratic votes (because of his wifes connections) and he has been on Republican committees on a very large scale. He has championed an after school program that was quite successful on a Statewide level, with a very good Public relations campaign. He can do GREAT PR with regard to bringing back business to California, tourism, and a host of other things that will bring the moolah back to this thirsty economy. So don't totally discount his candidacy. The public out here is way to smart to buy just an "actor".

I do want to know where he stands on gay marraiges, and a few other things EXTREMELY important to me like abortion. So I won't endorse ONE candidate just yet.

Give me more. FEED me.. then I'll decide.

Thanks!
2 posted on 08/08/2003 10:17:59 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: Pubbie
You California folk need to figure out how to persuade the viable conservative candidates (and I do exclude Arnold from the list of possibles here) to draw straws. This is a golden opportunity, but if there are significant campaigns coalescing around, say, both McClintock and Bill Simon, you may as well crown Arnold.

The folks that are supporting Arnold as "our best chance" need to realize that there is nothing to lose in this case by supporting a true conservative. This is not like in years past when a vote for Perot (or Howard Phillips, or Harry Browne, etc.) meant a vote for Clinton. There is no risk here of ending up with a re-election of Grayout Davis if not enough people vote for Arnold. The choice will be between Arnold and a real conservative. I'm not sure that enough people understand this yet.
3 posted on 08/08/2003 10:22:13 AM PDT by yeswecan
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To: Pubbie
If Arnold want to be taken seriously about his chances for the Governorship he needs to get a copy of the State Budget and have CPAs pour through it to find out where the true waste is. He needs to have his operatives talk (in secrecy) with Republican State Senators and Assemblymen to find out about all the dirty deals that have gone down between Davis and others. He is so far, unprepared. He made a good point about Davis though. Davis is blathering about his experience, and considering the present disastrous condition of the State, Arnold asked what good that experience has been.

That being said, I like your idea. I doubt that the talk show hosts at KMJ in the central valley will themselves publicly endorse McCliontock, although they have been supportive of him in their comments. I have said on KMJ that I support McClintock, and if I can get through again, I am going to repeat that support. A very positive thing that McClintock is doing is articulating specific ideas which could help alleviate the mess. I STILL think, that if the Valley holds together, that he can be elected.

4 posted on 08/08/2003 10:23:51 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: yeswecan
Issa dropping out helps McClintock, but Simon (The Moron) is apparently going to file to run, and thus splinter the Conservative vote...
5 posted on 08/08/2003 10:24:42 AM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: Enterprise
"I STILL think, that if the Valley holds together, that he can be elected."

He absolutely can be elected, just wait until Bob Mulholland, Gary South, and Art Torres go after Arnold for his philandering!

The negative ads will turn off conservative Republicans (Who will be turning out in force) and this might throw the race to McClintock.
6 posted on 08/08/2003 10:27:08 AM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Arnold has already declared himself "very liberal" on these issues. No one will dispute that Arnold has a good chance to win, but I would have to say "win what?". If a slight improvement in the California economy is what you are pinning your hopes on, I would suggest that even that will prove elusive with the likes of someone who can't see clearly enough to know that if abortion, gay marriages, la Raza etc. continue to run rampant, the damage to the "economy" will make the present slowdown look like the Gold Rush of 1849. You have nothing to lose by supporting a viable conservative (see post # 3).
7 posted on 08/08/2003 10:30:39 AM PDT by yeswecan
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To: yeswecan
"This is not like in years past when a vote for Perot (or Howard Phillips, or Harry Browne, etc.) meant a vote for Clinton. There is no risk here of ending up with a re-election of Grayout Davis if not enough people vote for Arnold. The choice will be between Arnold and a real conservative. I'm not sure that enough people understand this yet."

You are very seriously wrong. If the opposition vote (Republican) is SPLIT, there exists a big chance the democrat COULD win.

8 posted on 08/08/2003 10:31:15 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Pubbie
"Issa dropping out helps McClintock, but Simon (The Moron) is apparently going to file to run, and thus splinter the Conservative vote..."

It grows more clear why Simon lost last November. He must be one of the MOST amazingly STUPID people on the planet.
9 posted on 08/08/2003 10:33:21 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
He's going to file the papers Saturday, Hopefully whoever is going to drop off the papers gets caught in a big traffic jam, and Simon misses the deadline.
10 posted on 08/08/2003 10:37:37 AM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: Pubbie
Whoever wins will be considered a fluke. A politician with no mandate. A politician that the vast majority of voters did not select.

I suppose it's possible that McClintock or Simon might win with 20% of the vote in the event Schwarzenegger stumbles badly. But facing California's long-term systemic problems with a hostile legislature and without the support of the overwhelming number of California voters will be a challenge, to say the least.

I think you could make an argument that the only sensible vote would be one for a person you'd most like to fail. The next California Governor will go down in flames in three years, and that's assuming he isn't recalled first.

11 posted on 08/08/2003 10:38:24 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
While I was never a huge fan of Governor Pete Wilson, he was able to deal with the Democrats effectively, balancing the state budget. Arnold has picked up Wilson's team. In fact he has hired Wilson as a consultant. If he surrounds himself with qualified talent, he doesn't need to have all the answers. He just has to have qualified staff to point him in the right direction.

Wilson's staff is more than qualified, they've done this job. In the early nineties Wilson was faced with major budget problems. He and his staff resolved those issues with very little pain.

While those problems weren't nearly as accute as those we face today, Wilson's staff is the closest California will get to having a team that has demonstrated an ability to handle just the problems we face today.

This isn't intended as an endorsement of Schwarzenegger, but it does set the record straight. I think it's in the best interest of us all to be fully informed on this issue. The press and the other leftists won't tell you this.
12 posted on 08/08/2003 10:49:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ("He's baaaaack!" Now is he on our side or the side of the (political bigger is better) machines.)
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To: yeswecan
Sadly, wrong.

The people who vote for Davis' retention as governor can vote in the election of his successor. So if we had 40% RATs who voted to retain Davis, and they coalesced around a single Democrat, that Democrat would get 40% of the vote.

So we need someone with mass appeal who can beat that number. The identity of that person is obvious, so I won't belabor the point.

Of course if the Rat vote is heavily split, you can vote for whoever you want and it won't make much difference. So a lot depends on how this plays out.

D
13 posted on 08/08/2003 11:17:31 AM PDT by daviddennis
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To: Pubbie
I have I better idea, maybe he can move to Oregon, get elected to a congressional district (such as Portland west metro) and run against Governor Kulongowski in 2006. I will proudly vote for him.

But if you think he can be elected Governor of California, there is no frigin' way!
14 posted on 08/08/2003 11:17:56 AM PDT by ThreeYearLurker (Nobody outside of FR and his Cong District knows who McClintock is anyway)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Arnold has picked up Wilson's team. In fact he has hired Wilson as a consultant. If he surrounds himself with qualified talent, he doesn't need to have all the answers. He just has to have qualified staff to point him in the right direction. "

Wilson never lost an election. You say he governed effectively (if not always precisely as you would have him do).

I'd stake my bet on Arnold and Wilson's team. If he was politically ambitous, Arnold could have run before. I think he is doing this for public service. It will cost him a lot of money.

The world needs the likes of McClintock. I think he will have a hard time simply raising enough money. I find him to be indecisive.

Issa funded the recall, NOT McClintock. Issa declared himself a candidate, and filed first. I still don't know if McClintock has filed.

Experience wise, McClintock has worked in state government since college. That is it. No private business. He's not rich, because he has been content to be a government employee.

I wonder if McClintock will use his own team, which has lost in statewide contests, or will take over Simon's team?

There IS a reason why CA GOP is called the "stupid party."
15 posted on 08/08/2003 11:20:14 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: DoughtyOne
I hope Pete Wilson can influence Arnold on the 187/ illegal alien problem...as for the rest I agree a great leader doesn't need experience in one particular category, he must have good advisors though...something Gay Davis apparently doesn't have...now Cruz Bustamonte worries the heck out of me....
16 posted on 08/08/2003 11:21:43 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: daviddennis
The people who vote for Davis' retention as governor can vote in the election of his successor. So if we had 40% RATs who voted to retain Davis, and they coalesced around a single Democrat, that Democrat would get 40% of the vote.

That's what Bustamante says he's going to do. He's going to campaign on "Vote No on the recall; vote me on the ballot."

Since he's the only "significant" Democrat on the ballot, AND the Republicans will be split, AND he'll get most of the Latino/Hispanic vote, AND the Democrats will be targeting the perceived Republican frontrunners --> Bustamante wins. I actually thinks he's pretty savvy to see this; he can get votes from disenchanted Democrats who vote to recall Davis, and also from the Democrats who vote to keep him!

17 posted on 08/08/2003 11:23:59 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I think you may be overestimating the general public. They did vote in Gray-out Davis! AHHHnold doesn't have to explain his positions due to his name recognition so I expect vague answers to important issues like abortion, "gun control", "gay" "rights", runaway government spending, and the like. The short time to election may allow him to skate into office without explaining his stand, unless conservatives apply enough pressure.
"Gun controls should be stiffer." --Arnold Schwarzenegger

Principles before politics

Tom McClintock for Governor of California!

Freedom and Firearms -- A Speech by Senator Tom McClintock
Western Conservative Conference, Los Angeles, June 9, 2001

Molon Labe!

18 posted on 08/08/2003 11:24:14 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't tread on me!)
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To: Pubbie
Issa dropping out helps McClintock, but Simon (The Moron) is apparently going to file to run, and thus splinter the Conservative vote...

Damn. If Simon is staying in and splitting the conservative vote then one MAY have to vote for Arnold just to prevent Camejo or Bustamonte(Carlo) from winning

Too bad because McClintock could win as the ONLY conservative running.

19 posted on 08/08/2003 12:28:15 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Molon Labe)
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To: truth_seeker
Issa declared himself a candidate, and filed first. I still don't know if McClintock has filed.

False. Tom McClintock was among the first three candidates to file when he filed Tuesday; one of the other two that day was Audie Bock, and the other was from Marin County. Darrell Issa never filed his papers.

20 posted on 08/08/2003 12:33:14 PM PDT by heleny
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