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To: alternatediscourse
Do you doubt those numbers were highly maninpulated to suit the cry of that day?

Provide examples, and then differentiate the uncertainty surrounding the number of missing from Srebrenica with the declining numbers of missing reported from the WTC attack.

When large numbers of people are killed, it takes time to arrive at accurate numbers, this has happened for both the WTC and Srebrenica, and has taken much the same course with the exception that we didn't have to deal with Al Qaeda removing bodies from the WTC to secondary graves in an attempt to lessen their crime, and we don't have to put up with the ignorant attempting to lessen their crime through use of the uncertainties as to the "accurate to within one person" death toll.

What of the physical proof from the names declared dead later showing up in the U.S.A or in various regions of Bosnia?

Cite your supposed physical proof - hell, I'll even take documentary proof linked in your response in place of you sending live persons to my door: you will find 9 names that were duplicated upon the Tuzla voter registration rolls and the Srebrenica missing lists that were subsequently removed from the count of the missing - even though voter registration fraud was found to be the most likely cause. You have made a claim, and I fully expect this discussion to go the way of most Balkans thread issues - when challenged to provide supporting evidence, you will instead choose to talk your way around the lack of support for your position.

Prove me wrong.

What this issue boils down to is the Bosnian Serbs murdered upwards of 7,500 men and boys in pursuit of an illegitimate and indefensible policy which you now find yourself attempting to defend.

You have chosen the wrong fight, AD.

19 posted on 08/09/2003 2:11:05 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
There's never been a fight I've never backed away from as I remain undefeated to this date. Good v. Evil...good always truimphs as you have chosen the evil/muslims, I pity your allegiance to the heathans who preach hatred and intolerance as the Koran does.
24 posted on 08/10/2003 4:09:45 AM PDT by alternatediscourse (If tires are black, why is the Michelin man white? Answers anyone....?)
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To: Hoplite
Show where there were approximately 7,500 numbered missing?
How did these numbers configure?
Who provided those "missing numbers"?
How do we know that number is accurate?
How were those numbers arrived?

Show us all Hoplite? Are you up to that task? I doubt it you can find those answers as you will turn it right around. It is not in you to be proved wrong, go on and give those answers and I will answer your questions.

I am curious who supplied that number? How do we know they are accurate? You know, people were coming and going all the time so the "refugee" numbers were always fluctuating/up down/ up down...

The onus is on you to provide the above as aforementioned will lead to my answering your question posed to me.

25 posted on 08/10/2003 4:22:31 AM PDT by alternatediscourse (If tires are black, why is the Michelin man white? Answers anyone....?)
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To: Hoplite
So, has testing been completed on the bodies to test the soil samples found on the bodies v. the location/s of the alleged mass graves? What was the conclusion? Do we have physical proof that it were the Serbs that "moved" the bodies besided circumstantial "evidence"? Answer those questions while you are at it as well.

On January 17, 1996, the British daily "Guardian" published an article concerning one group of the former Muslim POWs from Srebrenica and Zepa, who, once liberated from a POW camp, were flown directly to Dublin:

"Hundreds of Bosnian Muslim prisoners are still being held at 2 secret camps within neighboring Serbia, according to a group of men evacuated by the Red Cross to a Dublin hospital from one camp - at Sljivovica. (...) A group of 24 men was flown to Ireland just before Christmas [1995](...). But some 800 others remain incarcerated in Sljivovica and at another camp near Mitrovo Polje, just three days before the agreed date for the release of all detainees under the Dayton peace agreement on Bosnia(...). The Red Cross in Belgrade has been negotiating for several weeks to have the men released and given sanctuary in third countries. A spokeswoman said most were bound for the United States or Australia, with others due to be sent to Italy, Belgium, Sweden, France and Ireland. (...) Since late August, the Red Cross has made fortnightly visits from its Belgrade field office. (...) Teams from the War Crimes Tribunal at The Hague have been in Dublin to question and take evidence from the men."

In 1996, the pro-government (Muslim) news agency TWRA reported:

"[One] Hundred-three Bosnian soldiers who were recently released from prisons in Serbia, were sent to Australia against their will", claims their commander, Osmo Zimic. Zimic also criticizes the UNHCR, whose spokesman claimed these soldiers demanded departure to Australia and by no means return to Bosnia for they would allegedly face criminal charges as deserters there. "This is not true", says Zimic.

Australian immigration & ethnic affairs office spokesman says he was informed [of] Zimic's allegation from the Bosnian embassy in Canberra and that the investigation was initiated."

"The Bosnian Embassy in Australia requested the Hague International Tribunal (ICTY) to start an investigation on the deportation of Bosniaks (800 persons) from Serbia to Australia and Europe in which, supposedly, UNHCR assisted, instead [of] involving Bosniaks in the exchange of prisoners, esp. for they had been in the camps in Serbia which claimed not to be involved in the war in Bosnia. The principal witness for the prosecution is Osmo Zimic, a Bosnian Army Officer, one who had been deported to Australia against his will."

26 posted on 08/10/2003 4:30:11 AM PDT by alternatediscourse (If tires are black, why is the Michelin man white? Answers anyone....?)
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