[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

[right wing]

Maurice Gourdault-Montagne, Hamas is a terrorist organization. What, are you stupid?

Not only is he stupid, he's down right arrogant about it!

[Pagey]

"If we find that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are indeed terror groups opposed to peace, we may have to change the EU's stand. However, we must not limit ourselves to one, clear cut, position." – SO SAITH Maurice Gourdault-Montagne, Advisor to French President Jacques Chirac (August 25, 2003)

What is so 'funny sick' about this, is that France has been using Gov't money to build Mosques throughout their country for the Muslims that have emigrated there, for several years now.They are in some serious denial over there,but I expect nothing less than thinking such as this,from one of the highest advisors in the French Gov't.

[knighthawk]

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[tiamat]

"Maurice Gourdault-Montagne, Hamas is a terrorist organization. What, are you stupid?"

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Yes.

Yes he is.

Tia

[RightWhale]

we must not limit ourselves to one, clear cut, position

At last a political advisor who has the courage to say the same thing in public that he says privately to the President in the Executive Office. No more oversimplistic black and white, it's all gray goo.

[xJones]

How many deaths does it take to understand that Hamas is a terrorist organization?

But those are Israeli deaths, and Israel was described by a famously maladriot French ambassador as "that shitty little country". Hamas will only become a terrorist organization when and if it ever starts blowing up French.

[Grampa Dave]

How much money have the French given these Islamofascist/kazi terrorist groups the past two decades.

One way to slow down that flow of money from France to the Islamofascists/kazis is not to buy anything made in France or by French owned companies.

French Products to Buycott

Make it a lifestyle to avoid French products or products made by what appear to be a non French company in America. The reality is that many of these companies like Wild Turkey are owned by the French.

Let them fear the American Street---our combined wallets.

"France has burned too many bridges!"

Lets keep burning those bridges that the slimey and worthless frogs keep trying to build post Iraq.

$crew the $limey Frogs with a Boycott and no vacations in Slimey Frog Land!


French Products to Buycott

We can resist their wines which usually come in behind the good Napa Valley Wines and Australian wines in blind tasting without French Judges like in the Winter Olympics.

We can do without French Products and services for the rest of this decade. Here is a list of French companies and their products to avoid for the rest of this decade. Please keep this list and send it to your relatives, friends and fellow conservatives via e and snail mail!

*New additions to the list.

Air France

Air Liquide

Airbus

Alcatel - Based in Paris France, Provider of communications equipment, including ADSL equipment, terrestrial and submarine optical networks, public switching, fixed wireless access and intelligent networks.


Allegra (Allergy Medication) - Produced by Aventis Pharmaceuticals based in Strasbourg, France

Aqualung (Including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and SeaQuest)

AXA Advisors

*Bacou-Dalloz-Makes Industrial protective devices

Bank of the West - Owned by BNP Paribas

Beneteau (boats)

BF Goodrich - Owned by Michelin

BIC (Razors, Pens & Lighters) - Started in 1945 by Marcel Bich. Originally based just outside of Paris. Began trading on the Paris Stock Exchange in 1972. 40.5% Publicly traded. Bich family still owns 33.5%.

Biotherm (Cosmetics)

Black Bush

Bollinger (Champagne)

*Browning Firearms**

Car & Driver Magazine

Cartier

Chanel

Chivas Regal (Scotch)

Christian Dior

Club Med (Vacations) - Owned in part by Paris based CDC (Caisse des Dépôts et Consignations)

Culligan (owned by Vivendi)

Dannon (Yogurt & Dairy Foods)

*Danone -Lea and Perrin, Evian and other food/water

*Decatholon Super Sport Stores or MVP Sport Stores*

* Dassault Systemes-(CATIA design software)*

DKNY - LVMH acquired 100% of Gabrielle Studio Inc., the privately owned licenser of Donna Karan trademarks back in 2001.

*DMC THREADS

Dom Perignon

Durand Crystal

Elle Magazine

*Emile Henry French Cookware

*Enertec makes high speed recorders used in Recon aircraft p>Essilor Optical Products

*Essilon- Varilux Progressive Lenses for eye glasses

Evian

Fina Oil - Billions invested in Iraqi Oil fields -FINA GAS STATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES ARE NOT FRENCH-OWNED AND ARE NOT PART OF TOTAL-ELF-FINA ... FINA GAS STATIONS ARE OWNED BY ALON ISRAEL OIL COMPANY ..

First Hawaiian Bank

George Magazine

Givenchy

*Grey Goose Vodka

*GroupeSEB owns Krups, Moulinex, Roweta and Tefal Cookware

*Groupe Shneider, owner of Modicon and Square D

*Guerlain Fragrances

*Hachette Filipacchi owner publisher of many magazines sold in the USA. See the list below:***

Hennessy

Houghton Mifflin (books) International Herald Tribune - 181 ave Charles-de-Gaulle - F-92521 Neuilly - FRSource:World Business Council for Sustainable Development '00 [Domain Registration], [Corporate Profile]

Jacobs Creek - Owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989

Jameson (whiskey Owned by Pernod Ricard )

Jerry Springer (talk show)

Krups

****Lagardere****

Lancome

*Lea & Perrins a product of Danon

Le Creuset (Cookware)

L'Oreal (Health & Beauty Products)

Louis Vuitton

Marie Claire

Martel Cognac

Maybelline

Méphisto (Footwear & Apparel)

Michelin (Tires & Auto Parts) - Their phone number is: (33) 1 45 66 15 53 in France

Mikasa Crystal and Glass (purchased by ARC int'l in 2001)

Moet (Champagne)

Motel 6 - 33, Avenue du Maine- 75755 Paris Cedex 15 France

Motown Records

MP3.com

Mumms (Champagne)

Nissan (Cars) - Majority owned by Renault

Nivea

Normany Butter

Parents Magazine

*Perrier

Peugeot (Automobiles) - Pronounced "Pooh Joe", must be French

Pierre Cardin

Playstation Magazine

ProScan - Owned by Thomson Electronics, France

Publicis Group (Including: Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising)

RCA (televisions & electronics) - Owned by Thomson Electronics, France

Red Magazine

Red Roof Inns - Owned by the Accor group based in France

Renault (Automobiles) major owner of Nissan

Road & Track Magazine

Roquefort Cheese - All Roquefort cheese is made in France

Rowenta (Toasters, Irons, Coffee makers, etc)

Royal Canadian

Salomon (Skis)

Seagram's Gin

Sierra Software and Computer Games

*Sodexho Alliance* French Food Caterer for the US Marines

Sofitel (Hotels) - Owned by the Accor group based in France

Sparkletts (Water) - Owned by Danone, based in France

Spencer Gifts

Sundance Channel

Taylor Made (Golf)

Technicolor

T-Fal (Kitchenware)

The Glenlivet (Scotch) *Top Tobacco - Dist. by Republic Tobacco L.P., Glenview IL, made in France

UbiSoft (Computer Games)

Uniroyal

Uniroyal Tires - Owned by Michelin

Universal Studios (Music, Movies & Theme Parks) -

Universal Studios is owned by Vivendi-Universal, headquartered in Paris France

USFilter

Veritas Group

Veuve Clicquot Champagne

Vittel

Vivendi - Vivendi Headquarters, Paris France

Wild Turkey (bourbon)

*Winchester Firearms (US Repeating Arms)**

Woman's Day Magazine

Yoplait - France-based Sodiaal owns a 50% stake of Yoplait

Yves Saint Laurent

*Yves Rocher Cosmetics

*ZigZag (tobacco papers and roller products)*

Zodiac Inflatable Boats

*New additions to the list thanks to Freepers. If you have an addition, Freepmail me with the URL showing French ownership.

** Sad news but these two companies are owned by the Belgian Company Herstal, (French Light)

***List of 18 magazines sold in USA by Hachette Filipacchi with an estimated 50 million readers: American Photo, Boating, Car Stereo Review's Mobile Entertainment, Cycle World, ELLE Decor, ELLEgirl, Flying, Home, Metropolitan Home, Popular Photography, Premiere, Sound & Vision, Travel Holiday, Woman's Day Woman's Day Special Interest Publications.

****Lagardere owns the Virgin Megastore group in France, which it bought from Richard Branson three years ago. Its Hachette media division publishes a battery of magazines including Elle , see *** Hachette Filipacchi above. Lagardere also has a stake in the Airbus manufacturing operation. The company is capitalised at over €5bn.

[Brian Allen]

More than 70% of "palestinian" arabs believe the murder of Israelis and other kaffirs to be acceptable behavior.

Kill every last one of the sexually-deformed sub-human bastards and run the rest the Hell off God's Mountains and out of Greater Israel.

And then declare peace.

Shalom -- Brian

[King Prout]

"...we must not limit ourselves to one, clear cut, position."

Um... OK, I'll bite: And why not? Are Euroweenies scared by a little thing called clarity? Or is it consistency which puts the wind up their backsides? How about an honest and simple desire to preserve one's self, and to do so the concommitant need to clearly and unambiguously identify sources of threat? Which of these basic concepts is so anathema to our limp-wristed cousins across the pond that they "must not" "limit" themselves to a single, fact-based, cogently worded, clear-as-day, inarguable position?

[.cnI redruM]

We should have been much more circumspect and contemplative before we just went off half-cocked and invaded Normandy June 6, 1944. Could we really call the Nazi Party a terrorist organization. Once the threat to Great Britain was over, we could have just sent in inspectors. We really need to stop being so judgemental all the time.

[Stultis]

"If we find that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are indeed terror groups opposed to peace, we may have to change the EU's stand. However, we must not limit ourselves to one, clear cut, position." – Maurice Gourdault-Montagne, Advisor to French President Jacques Chirac (August 25, 2003)

Un-FREAKING-believable. O.K., throw out the issue of terrorism (mass murder) for the moment. Don't even consider it. Both organizations are explicitly committed to a single state solution. There is not a single doubt they are opposed to the peace process, which is based on a two state solution.

Now consider the terrorism. Both organizations are in competition with each other, and with Fatah, in this regard. It is a point of pride to rack up the most murders, and to claim responsibility for the most bloody and barbaric attacks on innocents.

Only a frog, a fascist or a hard-leftist (pardon the redundancy) could ignore all this.

[Stultis]

What, are you stupid?

[SupplySider]

These people believe in the armed struggle of the the Palestinians against the racist Zionists and their American imperialist backers. They don't think the orgy of baby killing constitutes terrorism, they think it is justified. Not sure if this is stupid or just plain evil.