“Jewish Extremist” Plot to Kill Chirac

Arutz Sheva ^ | 28 aug 03 | Anon

[white trash redneck]

French Weekly: “Jewish Extremist” Plot to Kill Chirac

13:44 Aug 28, '03 / 30 Av 5763

(IsraelNN.com) Le Canard Enchaine', the oldest French weekly publication, famous for biting satire and for uncovering political scandal, has reported that “extremist right-wing Jewish elements from Israel and Russia” are attempting to influence French “right-wing extremist elements” to assassinate French President Jacques Chirac. These unnamed Israeli and Russian “extremists” seek to kill Chirac for his “far too pro-Arab” stance, as the weekly alleges, quoting anonymous police officers and state attorneys.

[white trash redneck]

Only in their fevered imaginations...

Yet I find myself asking, "And what would be wrong with this?"

;-)

[.cnI redruM]

The Russians make many effective versions of the SVB sniper rifle.

[cake_crumb]

Um....unnamed Jewish extremists seek to influence some uncertain party to kill Jaques for being pro-Arab. This information given to French publication by unnamed officials working for the rabidly anti-Semitic socialist government.

While it's entirely possible that some Jews, somewhere are so sick of French Arab pandering they might wish Jaques would kick off or someone would assassinate him - it's only human nature, I'm not trying to incite anyone to violence and hope that Jaques is NOT assassinated because I want him to stand trial - this article sounds like Arabist rumormongering. Pardon me while I don't bother getting all worked up.

[xJones]

No, no, let Chirac live. He's done such an outstanding job of making a mockery of both the U.N. and the E.U.

[lilylangtree]

Give Chirac enough rope and he usually hangs himself. He doublecrosses every friend he has. First the US, then Germany and Russia, with islamics it's just a matter of time.

[APRPEH]

yea, while this story wreaks of irony, it is also true how similar (in generalities) to historically anti jew attempts to cause popular sentiment against the jews by the "native, loyal citizens" and to launch violent outbursts against the "non-loyal" jewish residents living in their midst. if anyone needed another reason to believe that the level of french anti jewism has risen to post wwII highs, this is it. if this garbage made it into print, someone made a decision that it is beliveable. that is the scary part.

[txzman]

And the conspiracy ringleader is a former artilleryman man named Dreyfus. Only the French...

[RusIvan]

These unnamed Israeli and Russian “extremists” seek to kill Chirac for his “far too pro-Arab” stance, as the weekly alleges, ===

Possible. Jewish terrorism was very much spred 100 years ago in czarist Russia. So maybe they just woke up old traditions?

[PsyOp]

Hmmm. Chirac must be winding up for an anti-Jewish pogrom. They're always preceded by rumors of Jewish assasination plots. Stalin himself used that canard several times.

[rmlew]

Possible. Jewish terrorism was very much spred 100 years ago in czarist Russia. So maybe they just woke up old traditions?
1. You are beginning to sound like a member of the Black Hundreds.
2. Give me three examples of Jewish terrorism as opposed to terrorism by communists or anarchists of Jewish heritage.

[Imal]

All these unnamed sources seem reliable enough to me.

Round up the usual Jewish suspects!

[monkeyshine]

The paper is known for satire. It could just be their attempt sarcasm. A bit hard to detect I admit, but perhaps they were trying to "pile on" the anti-Jewish sentiment in order to make the point that European sentiment towards Israel, and esp with regards to this conflict, is more than just a bit rediculous.

If you ever had so much free time as to wish to visit a European chatboard, you would find revolting anti-semitism and anti-Israeli historical revisionism passed off as legitimate conversation.

So why not accuse some "right wing" Jewish boogiemen and some "right wing" French boogiemen of being in cahoots to murder the French leader? In Europe, perhaps the only people clever enough to laugh at this story would be the Jews.

[RusIvan]

2. Give me three examples of Jewish terrorism as opposed to terrorism by communists or anarchists of Jewish heritage.===

Yes you right on there was the "terrorism by communists or anarchists of Jewish heritage".
But for outsider(me!) they all was jews and they fought for jews against czarism. At least I red many justifications of those terrorist actions this way: "jews was presecuted by czarism then jewish commies or anarchists fought against czarist admiinistartion with terror acts as avengers".
One more fact.
When jewish commies and anarchists came to power in 1917 the one of first deñree they issued was "the fight againt antisemitism". In this deñree the antisemitism was punishable by death. Enforcement agency was CheKA.
Many people was executed under its provisions. If any jew pointed on man as antisemite then this man got arrested and executed. I might say it was the "paramount of strugle againt antisemitism" in Russia.

Those all real facts and you may imagine what feelings can be say in America if those actions happened to be there.

So I may conclude that jews in France today may think that they presecuted then someone may plan to "kill Chirac". Like someone in past planned to kill czar of Russia.
When commies came to power they executed czar and all his family along with family doctor. The commander of killing squad was jew.

[APRPEH]

interesting historical notes.. wasnt the goal of the 1917 revolution to unify all the people? all the poor can be poor together? why then are the jews separated from the other slaves of lenin? you didnt even mention trotsky. the "jews" of course were used by the commies. the "jewish section" of the commie party was used to finger other jews (the religious ones who wouldnt give up G-d, and particularly the Chasidim). when the job was over, the jewish section was eliminated in typical commie loyal fashion. why was trotsky eliminated? a threat to lenin, stalin? in the end, he was a jew, not a real soviet. even when the jew joins the revolution, somehow his actions are highlighted vs everyone else. there is a message here....

[rmlew]

Yes you right on there was the "terrorism by communists or anarchists of Jewish heritage". But for outsider(me!) they all was jews and they fought for jews against czarism. At least I red many justifications of those terrorist actions this way: "jews was presecuted by czarism then jewish commies or anarchists fought against czarist admiinistartion with terror acts as avengers".
I think the point is that Jews were a despised minority. Their hatred of a system that oppressed them was entirely natural. However most simply wanted to be left alone or be treated as citizens not an alien race. Over a million left Russia and Russian Poland for the US and British Commonwealths. Another group sought a Jewish state in Israel. Finally,a vocal minority sought to change the system through revolution. Some were classical liberals. Other decided to change the paradigm from Russian vs Jew to proletariat and recently emancipated serf against the nobles and monarchy. Jews were hardly alone in this. All educated non-ethnic Russians in Russia gravitated towards radical parties. However the Ukranians, Belorussions, Finns, Lithuanians, Estonians, Latvians, Tatars, Chechens, Azeris, Armenians, Kazakhs, Uzbeks, etc all had ethnically distinct regions that could become a country. Given this reality and the propensity for Jews towards education, it is not unreasonable that they were heavily overrepresented in all radical parties.
I would also remind you that it was not just non-Russians who were involved in revolutionary activity. The crowd in 1905 was mostly Russian and included clergy in the Russian Orthodox Church. Heck, in 1825 Russian officers (ie minor nobility!) tried to overthrow Nicholas I. http://www.bartleby.com/65/de/Decembri.html

When jewish commies and anarchists came to power in 1917 the one of first deñree they issued was "the fight againt antisemitism". In this deñree the antisemitism was punishable by death. Enforcement agency was CheKA. Many people was executed under its provisions. If any jew pointed on man as antisemite then this man got arrested and executed. I might say it was the "paramount of strugle againt antisemitism" in Russia.
When the Soviets came to power, they sought to expand their power base beyon the small proletariate. Thus they took up ethnic grievences and have the poor farmers carry out the land redistribution.
Whereas other ethnic groups tried secession, this was never an option for Jews. Thus the Soviets did not have to impose military rule.
However, Judaism was supressed like every other religion. Non-Bolshevik Jewish activists were butchered along with their Orthodox Christian neighbors. Stalin's purges fell disproportionately on Bolsheviks of Jewish decent.

When commies came to power they executed czar and all his family along with family doctor. The commander of killing squad was jew.
The commander was a communist acting because of the threat that the counterrevolutionary forces would rally around the Czar.
The average Jew was to busy hoping not to be killed by either side in the Russian civil war.

[RusIvan]

All educated non-ethnic Russians in Russia gravitated towards radical parties. ===

Absolutely.

I agree with most you say. But your view just from outside mine is from insider the russian national insider.
Maybe I'm little simplify the picture but I have inside me not just knowledge but feelings. I know how it were from stories of my relatives and my own experiences of USSR life. With all of it the "jew kommissar" is mosted hated persona. We hate them same way as hitlerites. You may understand what it is.
We don't hate today germans or jews but some uneasy feelings still there. Because there wasn't no reconciliations between us.