Another 9-11 Date With Death (FReeper Action URGENT Request)

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | September 4, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern | Jane Chastain

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another 9-11 date with death

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: September 4, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

What do you call a country that sentences its prisoners to death by starvation and dehydration?

Barbaric, inhumane perhaps?

Fasts, even hunger strikes, often are self-imposed for periods of time. However, no one in his right mind passes up fluids.

Death by dehydration is a painful, agonizing and arduous process that takes 10 to 14 days.

In addition to feeling the pangs of hunger and thirst, the skin, lips and tongue crack. The nose bleeds because of the drying of the mucus membranes. Heaving and vomiting may ensue because of the drying out of the stomach lining. The victim may experience seizures.

As the fluid level in the body goes down, the blood pressure goes down and the heart rate goes up. Respiration often increases as blood is shunted from the periphery to the central part of the body in a desperate attempt to sustain the primary organs. The hands and feet become extremely cold.

Compared to starvation and dehydration, death by hanging, firing squad, even the electric chair seems humane.

What kind of country imposes such a death, even on those guilty of the most heinous crimes?

Look in the mirror! We the people of the United States of America now are guilty of allowing this kind of death sentence to be carried out – not against murders, rapists and child molesters, but on some of the most disabled in our midst.

One week from today, on Sept. 11, 2003, as we observe the second anniversary of the terrorist attacks that killed over 3,000 innocent people in New York and Washington, D.C., a circuit judge in Florida will hold a hearing to decide when to remove the tube that is used to bring food and fluid to 39-year-old Terri Schiavo, who is slated to become the latest death-by-dehydration victim.

We call those people, who programmed and sent the terrorists into our country, barbarians. However, if we stand by and allow the state to kill an innocent woman like Terri Schiavo, whose only crime is being severely disabled, are we any better?

Terri is not on a respirator or any artificial life-support equipment. Any reasonable person who sees this woman reacting to her parents will realize she is not in a coma or, as it is sometimes called, a "persistent vegetative state." You can view the evidence for yourself.

In 1990, Terri Schiavo collapsed and suffered brain damage under unexplained circumstances. Having no durable power of attorney for health care, her husband, Michael Schiavo, became her guardian. He filed a malpractice lawsuit against the doctors who attended her and was awarded $1.3 million.

The bulk of the award was placed in a trust fund for her care and rehabilitation. However, in the last 10 years, she has received no meaningful rehabilitation treatment. Instead, her guardian husband hired a right-to-die advocate, George Felos, as his lawyer and began petitioning the courts to have her feeding tube removed, which, of course, will kill her.

Would a jury have set aside this money for her care if it had known that her guardian had planned to ask the court to end her life? Of course not!

Does the fact that Michael Schiavo would inherit any money left in her trust or is living with another woman – with whom he has had a child and plans to marry once Terri is out of the way – a conflict of interest? You bet it is!

Recently, Terri developed a serious infection, but Michael Schiavo refuses to allow doctors to treat her.

If a child is mistreated or denied proper care or medical treatment by a parent or guardian, the state will step in and place that child in the hands of someone who will protect the child from harm. Why should a disabled person be denied this protection?

Have we, as a nation, become so callous that we have bought into the "quality of life" argument that some people simply are not worth the effort to protect or rehabilitate?

Florida's governor, Jeb Bush, wrote a letter to the judge in charge of the case asking him to delay the removal of Terri's feeding tube – stay her execution – until her case could be investigated. He was ignored.

What Gov. Bush should do is have his attorney general bring an action by the state on Terri's behalf.

There has been a federal court hearing, but time is running out.

To date 27,000 people have petitioned Gov. Bush to save Terri Schiavo. That leaves 281,395,000 who should.

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Jane Chastain is a WorldNetDaily columnist and host of the Judicial Watch Report radio show, heard daily from 4 to 5 p.m. EST on the USA Radio Network.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

I thought this needed its own thread to put what is happening to Terri into perspective, as well as, capture more attention to the hard work of many FReepers over at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/971896/posts?page=1318

PLEASE FReepers!!!! Channel your OUTRAGE, and vow to make at least one phone call, and send at least one e-mail!!! These parents cannot battle this Clinton-appointee Judge alone! And as you might expect, FReepers have been uncovering LOTS of unnerving connections and affiliations between the FL Judges, Hospice, money (duh), insurance, a movement for the Right to Die, etc., etc., reaching back many, many years.

HELP! HELP!! HELP! HELP!!!!!!!! HELP us PLEASE???!!!!

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

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[Incorrigible]

Bump

[Hodar]

In 1990, Terri Schiavo collapsed and suffered brain damage under unexplained circumstances. Having no durable power of attorney for health care, her husband, Michael Schiavo, became her guardian. He filed a malpractice lawsuit against the doctors who attended her and was awarded $1.3 million.

Let's see, some simple math. $1.3 Million/10 years = $130,000/yr for medical attention.

Where, pray tell can you find medical attention at this bargain basement price? She has been in a coma for 10 yrs. Her husband is financially responsible for the medical costs. Would you be happier if he were bankrupt, lost his house and he and his family were inelgible for future medical insurance (due to lifelong limits on medical payments)? I'm sorry, but Terri is gone, her body lingers; but she is gone.

[CFW]

She has been in a coma for 10 yrs.

Sorry, but I've watched the video. That woman is not in a coma.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

BUMP

I need FReeper heeeeeeeeeelllllppppp here!!!

Bump-ping-email-call!

The first-string (as floriduh voter so eloquently stated) -ers over at the 1300+ thread for Terri Schiavo are exhausted, and are still sleeping. They have been doing so much work you will be **so** proud of them once you go over there and read some of what they have uncovered!!!

We need your connections and your help, please! We need to make NOISE!!!!!

[agrace]

Educate yourself before you judge, please.

http://www.terrisfight.org

http://www.internationaltaskforce.org/iua27.htm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34353 - start at the bottom of this one and read the previous articles first.

[agrace]

Thanks for the ping. :) Wish I could join you in FL. I'm in NJ, homeschool mom of 3 small ones (6, 2 1/2 and 9 months).

[Maigrey]

I'll give you a bump for support.

[Hodar]

Looking at the information on the links provided, (sorry, was unable to see the videos - company's firewall prevents this); gives rise to more questions than answers.

This article states that the husband received 1.3 Million, yet the other sites say that the sum was 1 Million. Just something I noticed. Also, were statements that led to the conclusion that Terri was beaten by her husband. If so, why were charges never filed? One would think that when a patient with bruises and evidence of physical abuse goes into the hospital, this would be looked at as attempted murder.

From the pictures, I agree with you, the does not appear to be in a vegetative state. She may have had severe mental disability; but she certainly does not look like a comotose patient to me.

Which leads me to wonder "Why doesn't the husband simply divorce her, if he wishes to re-marry?". The money is most certainly gone, so then, why would he want her to die?

[BlessedBeGod]

How fitting that the date is 9-11.

9-11-2003, another day of infamy.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

Thank you.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

Posted by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL to TheSpottedOwl; All
On News/Activism 09/02/2003 10:40 PM EDT #969 of 1,323

Wow.

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Ironsides
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Urgent Note: Today is the scheduled Execution Order Day!
Demand the government to STOP the GENOCIDE!
Two Suspicious Hospital Emergencies, and Information
withheld From the Parents!

Current case of disabled woman. Check the below links:

http://www.terrisfight.org
http://www.glennbeck.com/news/10142002.shtml



The American Apology to Adolf Hitler

by Ironsides
(updated) August 25, 2003


My gut feeling throughout the trial to starve Terri Schiavo to death, is that Disabled People should stick to our priorities. Our priority should be to recognize that 9-11, the sniper, Saddam Hussein nor anybody else is as serious a crime against humanity, as the current wave of genocide underway against us as members of the Human Race!

The Glenn Beck talk show audio clip of a phone call between host Glenn Beck and Steve Schiavo, at the top of this page, only confirms that conditions are way past time to continue responding to genocide, with no more than talk. The above link presents some very clear points, which expose once again, that these warlords of the Right-to-Die terrorist organization aren't the least bit interested in relieving "terminally ill" people, with their consent. These worthless, barbaric, uncivillized savages are obscessed with killing, equal to every other kind of serial killer who has dominated the most mainstream news coverage! The Right-to-Die organization is literally, the Right-to-Genocide terrorist organization!

Two days ago was the very first time I was able to listen to a clip from the Glenn Beck Show, a clip which you can click on to hear for yourself: http://www.glennbeck.com/news/10142002.shtml. Glenn Beck talks with Steve Schiavo (Michael Schiavo's brother). In his own words, not once but twice, he confidentally tells the talk show host that it's OK to starve handicapped people to death, if the court says it's alright to do so. So, again I reiterate, that since the USA tolerates, defends and even promotes such ideas in its population, the United States government owes a formal, written apology to Adolf Hitler, his top medical executioners, and his top officers.

Glenn Beck spelled out how he awoke to the facts involved in Terri Schiavo's case.--He did his homework! It seems that the mainstream media either don't want to do their homework, for which they would undoubtedly arrive at the same conclusions as Mr. Beck, or they don't really care to be objective in their coverage. That's nothing new. Contrary to the responsibilities any genuine journalist is expected to live by, most reporters just want to grab any story which might get more attention, such as terrorism, and cash in on their sensationalist accounts. Situations like Terri-Schindler Schiavo, tend to be intimidating to alot of the media, because they want to publish what will become popular. The popularity of such cases depends on whether reporters will get more support for pushing the Right-to-Live angle--or the Right-to-Die angle of the case.

The best thing many reporters can do is review the history of Germany, prior to, and following the election of Hitler in 1933:

Euthenasia in the Third Reich: http://www.ethicsandmedicine.com/18/1/18-1-vermaat.htm by J A Emerson Vermaat
and
Hitler's Unwanted Children: http://www.holocaust-trc.org/unwanted.pdf by Sally M. Rogow.

What the world needs to understand, is that the recent push behind genetic engineering and bio-research, is a revival of what led to the Holocaust in 1939. People, wake up! Why do you allow these Right-to-Genocide militants to use their high priests of higher education, such as Peter Singer, to tell you who should be considered human, and have a right to live, who should die, and use their media propaganda officers to tell you that their so-called Right-to-Die terrorist network has no reltaionship to what happened in Germany and Poland until 1945?

Please go to the Terri's Fight website, study her situation and then do something about it. Judge Greer is soon to hand out his final verdict. I want to urge you, and the major news media networks to STOP the GENOCIDE today! Contact the government, the media, and organize mass demonstrations to stop the current wave of genocide which has slowly been picking up momentum, since Holland started executing 50% of the euthenasia cases against their consent every year, since 1984.

"As a result of Judge Greer's verdict and appeal court denials, in April
of 2001, Terri was deprived of food and water for several days. At the
last possible minute she was saved by the order of a different judge."

This is not just another little case of fighting the system to prevent euthenasia. This is a clear criminal murder we're looking at. This should be dealt with by criminal lawyers. How convenient for terrorist organizations to put their cocky little agents in courtrooms as judges, prosecutors, and court appointed expert witnesses--ha! If the USA, of any nation on Earth is going to allow this and a long list of similar executions, where people are not executed for murder, but for living with a disability, disabled activists and their supporters should demand that the US government make a formal apology to Adolf Hitler, his top medical team, and top German officers.

Rus Cooper-Dowda is a survivor of a similar horror story who deserves alot of credit and encouragement as one of today's Holocaust survivors. She can be reached at: uudre@aol.com. Below is an excerpt of what she said about an influential Rabbi, who helped to build support for Terri Schiavo:
'While, I spoke as a representative of Not Dead yet, the "draw" of the rally was Rabbi Levin. As a representative of over 1200 Orthodox Rabbis in the United States and Canada, what he said went right to the heart of the issue, as in:

"What happens here will have a profound effect on what happens to life and living in America."

"If death by electric chair is 'cruel and unusual punishment,' what is death by starvation? A party? A bar mitzvah?"

"How many hoops do you have to jump through in the United States to earn the right to be fed?"

"Terrorists will not get death by starvation, why Terri?"

After explaining the newly minted and used term of "minimal brain function" beyond coma and persistive vegetative state, he said:

"As a Jewish person I am particularly sensitive to what is going on here...Where are our leaders?"

He closed with, "If two people argue and living is at stake, then we have to err on the side of life for the good of us all."

and, "I want my co-religionists to understand this is the next great accomplishment -- to establish the right of the disabled to live."'

If a dedicated team of criminal lawyers examine all the details of the Terri Schiavo case among others, guys like Judge Greer, the Schiavo family and Michael Schiavo's lawyers will get chewed-up and spit out in the trash with Terri's husband. Realizing the below information only fuels my concern for soon coming militant means to put these Holocaust warlords into a hole they won't escape from:

"Please understand, Terri is in relatively good health.
*** She not in a coma and in no imminent danger of
death.
*** Terri is not on a ventilator nor is she dependent
on any life support
machinery...Although Terri suffers from brain damage, she responds to her family and
friends. She is cognizant, acutely aware of her surroundings and she
reacts positively to stimulation. She frequently attempts to speak.
Terri is not brain dead nor is she in a persistent vegetative state, as
she was falsely represented to the court at her trial. Several medical
doctors have given sworn testimony that Terri has the potential for
significant improvement, however her husband, Michael Schiavo, will not
allow Terri any rehabilitation therapies."

One difference in the two cases I compare between Tracy Latimer and Terri Schiavo, which are similar, is that Terri Schiavo is being "legally murdered", and executed for the crime of becoming disabled from a likely botched murder, and using today's technology to digest food more easily.

This sure as hell is an example of "the American Dream"--isn't it? People who wake up from accidents or medical problems with disabilities of any kind, can only wake up to "the American Nightmare"! The American Dream only tends to exist for Americans until the day they receive some kind of disability. The Schiavo family then feel that, as long as the court says it is alright to do so, Americans can starve "handicapped people" to death!--Welcome to The American Way! Now, exactly how many Disabled People are going to sing "God Bless America"?

Another troubling issue is how judges and lawyers are allowed to bar testimony, evidence and witnesses who are the crucial means to prove the innocence of someone scheduled for execution. This is in the nation which boasts that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Probably 15-20% of the American prison population would walk free tonight, if it were true.

In Terri Schiavo's situation, much falsified information has been presented to the public, to boost support for a speedy execution. What exactly is she guilty of? Glenn Beck, in one Audio Recap from October 20, explains emotionally, how poor Terri was a victim of Bolemia. With a self-serving and verbally sarcastic husband, she suffered his ridicule over eating and fear of becoming fat. The day came she supposedly suffered a heart-attack, trying to please Michael, her husband. So, the two things Terri was guilty of were:

1. Becoming permanently disabled while trying to please Michael.
2. Using modern biotechnology for what it was designed to do, make it easier to eat and digest food.

Her blood thirsty executioners don't want the world to learn what you can read below:

"Several medical
doctors have given sworn testimony that Terri has the potential for
significant improvement, however her husband, Michael Schiavo, will not
allow Terri any rehabilitation therapies. Currently, her husband is
engaged, has lived with his fiancé for over 5 years and openly
professes he will marry his fiancé when his wife, Terri dies. He will
also will inherit the balance of Terri's 1.5 million dollar medical
malpractice award upon her death."

A few things are coming to mind about this:

First of all, since his only intent is to murder her and inherit a fortune, laws need to be changed concerning inheritances. It's obvious that this and many other cases are not "compassionate homocide"--except for the benefit of the killers! In a case where a wife or husband is murdered, directly or indirectly by their partner, the partner should not inherit anything.

Another thing which comes to mind, is that when a so-called mercy killing is against the consent of the victim, and their relatives (parents, brothers or sisters, or adult children) oppose such a measure being pursued by the husband or wife, the partner should lose their power-of-attorney. The power-of-attorney should be granted to those relatives seeking to preserve the life and care of the victim. This case should result in all kinds of laws being struck down, amended or re-written.


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[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

"It is not my opinion that Mrs. Schiavo is in a coma or in a persistent vegetative state." Sara Green Mele, MS, CCC-SLP, Nationally recognized Speech Pathologist. (sworn statement).


Despite three physicians testifying that they believed Terri could swallow, Judge Greer refused to allow Terri to have a swallowing test.


"In my opinion, she exhibits purposeful though inconsistent reactions to her environment, particularly her family." Sara Green Mele, MS, CCC-SLP, Speech Pathologist.


"She is not terminally ill or in imminent danger of death and she has no problem assimilating the nutrition provided. She left no advanced directive." Catholic Medical Association statement, July 23, 2003

Interview between Ms. Anderson and Dr. William Hammesfahr, Neurologist

Ms. A.: You said you never felt a neck like that except in one other patient, right?
Dr. Hammesfahr: Correct.
Ms. A.: What was the cause of the injury in the other patient?
Dr. Hammesfahr: The patient had anoxic encephalous due to attempted strangulation.

[concerned about politics]

She can still smile.
I've seen kids in wheel chairs that are just like this woman- feeding tubes and all.
Next, euthinasia of the disabled will be considered politically correct. "They're a burden to their families". Any member of the family will be allowed to "abort."

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Posted by floriduh voter to getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
On News/Activism 09/02/2003 11:22 AM EDT #724 of 1,323

The Supreme Court of Florida's recent Denial actually called Dr. Hammesfahr a "quack" by insinuation. They insulted all of Terri's doctors and derided their credentials. A google search under Terri Schiavo Fla Supreme Court Decision (I think) produces the entire decision. Their tone throughout was get rid of her because we're sick of this case. It's quite Orwellian.


It should be noted that this "quack" doctor was nominated for a Nobel Prize.


re: dh's banning of the clergy from visiting:

"Terri looked forward to his visits," she said.

Anderson said Malanowski filed an affidavit "describing how one St. Patrick's Day he visited Terri and told her he was going to sing 'When Irish Eyes are Smiling' in Polish. And she started laughing. She got the humor, she understood. Michael insists that she is so brain-damaged that she can't recognize people or anything -- but she loves Monsignor."

As Anderson's sees it, Schiavo is trying to make Terri's environment as "barren as possible, and as free from stimulation."

"I don't think there is any justification for removing spiritual comfort from her in what may be her last days," she said. "It's beyond comprehension."



Regarding conflict of interest points,

found this at the following link for Clearwater Bar Assoc; link properties indicate this was from Dec 1997 - BITS & BRIEFS George J. Felos was re-elected to serve as Chairman of the Board of Directors of The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, Inc. Our Hospice is open to serve all dying people in Pinellas County B regardless of the person=s race, age, faith, or financial resources.Then from terrisfight.org - May 1998, Michael Schiavo hires attorney George Felos to petition the court to have Terri’s feeding terminated. Subsequently, the court has permitted Michael Schiavo to withdraw money from Terri’s medical fund to reimburse his legal expenses in his efforts to have Terri die.


******EXCERPT: Nurse recalls Schiavo asking, 'When is that bitch gonna die?'Carla Sauer Iyer was a Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) at the same convalescent center in the mid 1990s, and also cared for Terri. She described Mr. Schiavo as being "focused on Terri's death. "Michael [Schiavo] would say, 'When is she going to die? Has she died yet?' and 'When is that bitch going to die?'" Iyer charged. "Other statements which I recall him making include, 'Can't anything be done to accelerate her death, won't she ever die?' When she wouldn't die, Michael [Schiavo] would be furious."Conversely, Iyer said that when she would have to call Schiavo to inform him of a downturn in Terri's condition, Schiavo would be elated."Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die," Iyer recalled. "He would blurt out, 'I'm going to be rich,' and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat and going to Europe, among other things." ******

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

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[concerned about politics]

Dr. Hammesfahr: The patient had anoxic encephalous due to attempted strangulation.

It sounds like her husband may be afraid she may talk or write someday. If she's dead, he can remain free.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

Tell me about it.

Back later! Keep pinging this throughout the day FReepers, please.